If you want a self-hosted Trello clone, check out Wekan (http://wekan.io/).
I've recently installed Kanboard (http://kanboard.net) on the smallest DI instance and it works a treat. Kanban board, task list, calendar view, Gantt chart, it has a view for everyone. Simple enough for non-technical team members, yet enough features to effectively manage development projects.
It's not perfect, there are a few small bugs, but it seems to be actively developed and in general I can recommend the product thus far. Spend an hour tweaking the CSS to taste, and it's a very nice tool.
Just tried the demo Wekan, and I have to say that it does not give me any good feelings about it. The screenshot of Wekan on the landing page is totally different to the demo.
I'll admit that there are some similarities, but our focus is very different. What you see today is perhaps closer to Trello than what the experience of Someone.io will be a few months from now.
We have heard from many users who tell us that it is our design and attention to detail that they prefer over Trello. We know that won’t be the case for everyone, but there is plenty of demand for products that serve a similar purpose to Trello, but do things a little differently.
With that said, I think there are 3 main differences between us and Trello.
1. We are team focused. Someone.io is specifically focused on delivering value to teams in a work environment, where Trello has much broader aims. Our focus on teams allows us to better meet their needs.
2. We have simple but beautiful design. We want to be the easiest and most engaging task management tool on the market. Our research tells us that some users find Trello to be “dull" and “uninspiring" and we’ve found particular traction with creative teams who enjoy our approach.
3. We are in the process of becoming the first "Social Task Management” tool. Together with our research partners, we have developed some features designed to make users feel more interconnected with their team and more engaged with their work which we’ll start deploying soon.
1. Our focus is to serve teams so in the near future, all of our new features will be directed towards teams. (btw which features of trello do you feel lack "focus on teams" ?)
2. Our visual design is better than Trello.
3. We will eventually bring in more "social" collaborative tools (any idea what these will be like?)
If your aim is to provide a better team experience than Trello, then I don't think this qualifies as a MVP. It's not clear what those features are from this summary and trying out the product, EXCEPT the look & feel. It's definitely nicer than Trello IMHO. If that's the main differentiator you wanted to test at this stage, then I'd consider this MVP (and sounds like a great success, hitting #1 on HN). If not, I wish you would've waited a bit longer to include some of those key features.
I used to use Trello + Burndown for Trello + Scrum for Trello prior to this. This looks better. It will have to be very fast loading and should have burndown & scrum like features before I can convince my team to switch, but thumbs up for the great job!
I will give it a shot :)
Kudos!
Edit — Tried it out! is awesome! A few minor things though – It's a little too similar to Trello for me to bother switching, but looks way better (subjective I know, but works well for me!)
and also this: For the buttons (signup button on the home page. The element:focus{outline: none;} is something that really goes a long way in showing polish and detail on the front end.
I would be more tempted to try this if there was a demo board that could be viewed and interacted with without having to sign up. I am wary of giving my email address before I can even see a basic example working.
I tend to think similarly, but there are many ways to generate a temporary email address.
It isn't the case here but site/app makings take note: this is why I never "sign-in using <social media account or some such>" so if that is the only option you offer I won't be trying your service/app/other.
For email I have a sub-domain set as catch-all and give out addresses in that to new sites. If an address starts getting junk I can just block it. If the sub-domain as a whole gets deluged then I kill it and start another (any site/app/other I continue using gets given an address on my main domain so I'd lose nothing, though I've never actually had to do that). Because it is a sub-domain it gets skipped by junk mailers guessing commonname@domain.tld addresses. Some sites have bad email address checking that rejects something@sub.domain.co.uk (I assume their regexp doesn't like the extra dot in the server name) but if someone gets that wrong I don't trust the code in the rest of their app so I move on.
Then it comes down to wether you are interested enough to go through and create a temporary email to check it out. I was not that interested and rarely is.
The catch-all means I don't have to create an address - just make one up on the fly. Everything to that sub-sub-domain (aside from those addresses blocked because they've attracted junk mail) are forwarded on to one of my "real" accounts.
Why is this your first reaction? You really can't see why it would be better to have some sort of way to interact with the app before entering an email address?
Is it just me or are the icons on the screenshots misaligned? Seems to be off by one pixel to some direction, I don't know why it seems so disturbing to me.
The quality of web apps seems to be inversely proportional to the vertical length of its front webpage. So this looks pretty good!
For an app like this, dedicating the team's time to it should take no less than 5 minutes of attention per person, about the time it takes someone to deliver post-it notes to everyone's desk or mount a corkboard to the wall. This also seems to work within that principle.
I've been looking for software for months that would help facilitate a lot of collaborative document production. I love the simplicity and user interface of this system -- almost every other system I've tried fails in some major element of the user experience.
It's missing two things that I would need to actually use it:
1. An overview, where you can see the status and progress of all the projects at a glance. Right now, as far as I can tell, the only info the overview page gives about the projects is the project name and participants. I'd love to be able to see which columns were completed in the overview page.
2. Project templates. I want to have a few different project types, each type of which loads a default set of columns, colors, and tasks.
One final observation is that I'm not sure what the "state" field of the columns does. Changing the state doesn't seem to have any visible effect. For my purposes I'd like each of the columns to represent project stages and for it to be very meaningful when we've moved from one project state to the next.
Looking forward to seeing future iterations of this project! I've been amazed at how hard it is to find a software solution for my needs, and am very glad to see new promising new development in this area.
Thanks for taking the time trying out our product.
1.The product so far is in its early days. A better overview across projects will definitely be developed.
2. In the backend, a project is based on a template system. It's not visible to the user yet as this concept further needs adjustments before we can roll it out . In fact the current project design is just our first "plugin" of how a project can look. We hope to offer multiple ways to visualize a project in the future.
The state field is a system state (not changeable) that is used for triggers and in the future reporting. When you tick of a Task as finished, a trigger occurs that will look up the column with the system state "Completed" and move the task there. It's a bit rough at the moment, but could be a handy way to automate certain tasks later on and provide reports across projects.
The page allows to register with www.someone.io
Of course, that will not redirect properly to the board afterwards, but I was able to register a board with that address.
Nice application! Task management for teams is exactly what we have been doing at http://tasksinabox.com/ . Besides streamlined task operations, we aim to accommodate and sync your tasks across different applications and sites, such as O365 and Outlook, and integrate with your files and calendars on Microsoft and Google platforms as not having 'one more task-list' was something our users were very keen on. We have a free tier so you don't have to take my word for it. Uservoice is integrated in the app site, and all feedback is more than welcome!
Signed up to take a look but apart from the lovely interface, it seems to be lacking in unique features that'd turn my head away from Trello.
While I do love Trello, I find it is missing support for some aspects of Kanban such as swimlanes and list limits. If something out there could match Trello on the majority of features, add in the classic Kanban stuff (optionally) and have a nice looking interface + mobile client, I'd be sold.
We are really pleased to see such interest and enthusiasm in the product, it chimes with what we've been hearing from users since we launched our beta in May. Your feedback is very useful for us - Someone.io is still in development and we are currently in the middle of an equity crowdfunding campaign which you can see over at http://invest.someone.io .
If there is anyone who wants to support us and become a shareholder, we'd love for you to go and have a look at our campaign and invest.
When are you going to release it for real? Unclear, given that the pricing page says "Coming this summer"...is it possibly in 11.5 months? If you don't get payments, how can we know it will still exists in a few months?
I came here to ask a very similar question - "this summer" means completely different things depending on where on the globe you sit, and it's even more confusing that the majority of readers have just exited the summer.
It gives the distinct impression they've already missed the promised deadline even if that's not the case.
You’re right! That plan to release the payment model this summer was made back in spring and that text wasn’t supposed to be there... The reason we changed was we started a partnership with http://www.sintef.no/en/ (Scandinavia’s largest independent research organisation) in March which made us change some things about the direction we are taking the product in.
We have been working with SINTEF and 6 pilot partner companies to fine tune the product to meet user needs as they define them and also to make sure we have a premium, paid version that is going to work.
It will be rolled out by the end of this month and, while I don’t want to give too much away, there will be a free option and a premium version with extra features where companies pay per user/per month. We will be sure to let you guys know when we have more details.
Nice product. We've been doing the same - "Task management is easy" being also our headline at hiTask, http://hitask.com It's a task management tool for teams, with mobile apps, Google sync integration and much more.
I find it interesting that as a newly released product that is likely to hold sensitive information security seems to be lightly addressed. The only reference to anything you'd do to keep my data safe is this single paragraph under the Privacy Policy: "The security of your Personal Information is important to us, but remember that no method of transmission over the Internet, or method of electronic storage is 100% secure. While we strive to use commercially acceptable means to protect your Personal Information, we cannot guarantee its absolute security."
You also have a limit of liability for the actual amount paid to you over the last 12 months (for a free service, this is $0), and on top of that a pretty broad indemnity clause.
Depending on your target audience, I think a pay for option at the lowest tier would help, as at least then I'm not left wondering how you make money and if you plan on selling data to advertising partners as a "related service".
From a design and functionality standpoint I appreciate the simple slick design and feature set. It focuses on the core need without feature bloat. Best of luck!
The quoted clause is part truism part obviousness. There is and never will be absolute security. Then they just state that they do their best - to the extent commercially acceptable - to protect the data (who doesn't?). I really don't see anything wrong here. If someone else promises you something else they're most likely either over-confident or lying. Or investing in their security more than their budget allows them to do.
Paired with liability clause, basically this reads to me (my personal interpretation) as "we'll try our best but don't trust us with anything you that you really value and can't afford to lose". Which is probably acceptable for teams with low or no secrecy requirements, although it probably won't fit a group with stricter needs.
Disclaimer: not affiliated by any means, just looked up few pages, found no demo, haven't bothered to sign-up, still have opinion (haha)
Although the UI looks good, there are a few problems that are still keeping me from using it:
1. When two or more people are editing the same card's description, the description goes out of sync and ends up not saving either of the changes.
2. The UI doesn't feel very snappy -- it feels kind of slow.
3. The state field of a column has no other purpose right now than to mark it as completed so that cards end up moving there automatically when completed. Perhaps show the state field somewhere?
4. Why are cards automatically moved when completed? I liked Trello because I can organize it in whatever way I wish..I'll turn off the Completed lane for now.
5. I can't assign more than one label/tag/color to a card.
This feedback is invaluable to us. We've been receiving a lot since this post hit No.1 this morning and the development team will be hard at work for the coming weeks implementing the best of the suggestions we have got.
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[ 2.7 ms ] story [ 195 ms ] threadI've recently installed Kanboard (http://kanboard.net) on the smallest DI instance and it works a treat. Kanban board, task list, calendar view, Gantt chart, it has a view for everyone. Simple enough for non-technical team members, yet enough features to effectively manage development projects.
It's not perfect, there are a few small bugs, but it seems to be actively developed and in general I can recommend the product thus far. Spend an hour tweaking the CSS to taste, and it's a very nice tool.
I'll admit that there are some similarities, but our focus is very different. What you see today is perhaps closer to Trello than what the experience of Someone.io will be a few months from now.
We have heard from many users who tell us that it is our design and attention to detail that they prefer over Trello. We know that won’t be the case for everyone, but there is plenty of demand for products that serve a similar purpose to Trello, but do things a little differently.
With that said, I think there are 3 main differences between us and Trello. 1. We are team focused. Someone.io is specifically focused on delivering value to teams in a work environment, where Trello has much broader aims. Our focus on teams allows us to better meet their needs. 2. We have simple but beautiful design. We want to be the easiest and most engaging task management tool on the market. Our research tells us that some users find Trello to be “dull" and “uninspiring" and we’ve found particular traction with creative teams who enjoy our approach. 3. We are in the process of becoming the first "Social Task Management” tool. Together with our research partners, we have developed some features designed to make users feel more interconnected with their team and more engaged with their work which we’ll start deploying soon.
Thanks for your question, have a great day!
1. Our focus is to serve teams so in the near future, all of our new features will be directed towards teams. (btw which features of trello do you feel lack "focus on teams" ?)
2. Our visual design is better than Trello.
3. We will eventually bring in more "social" collaborative tools (any idea what these will be like?)
I will give it a shot :)
Kudos!
Edit — Tried it out! is awesome! A few minor things though – It's a little too similar to Trello for me to bother switching, but looks way better (subjective I know, but works well for me!)
and also this: For the buttons (signup button on the home page. The element:focus{outline: none;} is something that really goes a long way in showing polish and detail on the front end.
The product is indeed very basic at its current stage. We wanted to do things right and design it beautiful before we jumped onto more features.
Thanks for commenting on the element:focus button.
It's kind of not cool to discriminate for the sake of "polish".
Reference: http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-WCAG20-20081211/#navigation-me... http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/NOTE-WCAG20-TECHS-20081211/F78
It isn't the case here but site/app makings take note: this is why I never "sign-in using <social media account or some such>" so if that is the only option you offer I won't be trying your service/app/other.
For email I have a sub-domain set as catch-all and give out addresses in that to new sites. If an address starts getting junk I can just block it. If the sub-domain as a whole gets deluged then I kill it and start another (any site/app/other I continue using gets given an address on my main domain so I'd lose nothing, though I've never actually had to do that). Because it is a sub-domain it gets skipped by junk mailers guessing commonname@domain.tld addresses. Some sites have bad email address checking that rejects something@sub.domain.co.uk (I assume their regexp doesn't like the extra dot in the server name) but if someone gets that wrong I don't trust the code in the rest of their app so I move on.
Can't you just get a new throwaway email address and try the product and decide to keep or ditch it?
Yeah I'm doubling down so the downvote goons can enjoy their field day to the fullest.
https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html
For an app like this, dedicating the team's time to it should take no less than 5 minutes of attention per person, about the time it takes someone to deliver post-it notes to everyone's desk or mount a corkboard to the wall. This also seems to work within that principle.
It's missing two things that I would need to actually use it:
1. An overview, where you can see the status and progress of all the projects at a glance. Right now, as far as I can tell, the only info the overview page gives about the projects is the project name and participants. I'd love to be able to see which columns were completed in the overview page.
2. Project templates. I want to have a few different project types, each type of which loads a default set of columns, colors, and tasks.
One final observation is that I'm not sure what the "state" field of the columns does. Changing the state doesn't seem to have any visible effect. For my purposes I'd like each of the columns to represent project stages and for it to be very meaningful when we've moved from one project state to the next.
Looking forward to seeing future iterations of this project! I've been amazed at how hard it is to find a software solution for my needs, and am very glad to see new promising new development in this area.
Thanks for taking the time trying out our product.
1.The product so far is in its early days. A better overview across projects will definitely be developed. 2. In the backend, a project is based on a template system. It's not visible to the user yet as this concept further needs adjustments before we can roll it out . In fact the current project design is just our first "plugin" of how a project can look. We hope to offer multiple ways to visualize a project in the future.
The state field is a system state (not changeable) that is used for triggers and in the future reporting. When you tick of a Task as finished, a trigger occurs that will look up the column with the system state "Completed" and move the task there. It's a bit rough at the moment, but could be a handy way to automate certain tasks later on and provide reports across projects.
Edited your domain name, and restricted www so it can't happen again. Thanks for pointing it out so we could correct it :-)
While I do love Trello, I find it is missing support for some aspects of Kanban such as swimlanes and list limits. If something out there could match Trello on the majority of features, add in the classic Kanban stuff (optionally) and have a nice looking interface + mobile client, I'd be sold.
We are really pleased to see such interest and enthusiasm in the product, it chimes with what we've been hearing from users since we launched our beta in May. Your feedback is very useful for us - Someone.io is still in development and we are currently in the middle of an equity crowdfunding campaign which you can see over at http://invest.someone.io .
If there is anyone who wants to support us and become a shareholder, we'd love for you to go and have a look at our campaign and invest.
You're also more than welcome to follow us at http://www.twitter.com/someoneapp and http://www.facebook.com/someoneapp Thanks everyone!
Lasse @ Someone.io
Looks neat btw!
It gives the distinct impression they've already missed the promised deadline even if that's not the case.
You’re right! That plan to release the payment model this summer was made back in spring and that text wasn’t supposed to be there... The reason we changed was we started a partnership with http://www.sintef.no/en/ (Scandinavia’s largest independent research organisation) in March which made us change some things about the direction we are taking the product in.
We have been working with SINTEF and 6 pilot partner companies to fine tune the product to meet user needs as they define them and also to make sure we have a premium, paid version that is going to work.
It will be rolled out by the end of this month and, while I don’t want to give too much away, there will be a free option and a premium version with extra features where companies pay per user/per month. We will be sure to let you guys know when we have more details.
Thanks again, Lasse @ Someone.io
These are the things I like about it:
1. Simplicity and easy set up. 2. I am not forced to provide my personal information 3. Customizable workspace 4. Easy to invite co-workers
we actually do integrate with slack! You can read a how to guide right here - http://blog.someone.io/post/117160294470/integrate-slack
Dan @ Someone.io
You also have a limit of liability for the actual amount paid to you over the last 12 months (for a free service, this is $0), and on top of that a pretty broad indemnity clause.
Depending on your target audience, I think a pay for option at the lowest tier would help, as at least then I'm not left wondering how you make money and if you plan on selling data to advertising partners as a "related service".
From a design and functionality standpoint I appreciate the simple slick design and feature set. It focuses on the core need without feature bloat. Best of luck!
Paired with liability clause, basically this reads to me (my personal interpretation) as "we'll try our best but don't trust us with anything you that you really value and can't afford to lose". Which is probably acceptable for teams with low or no secrecy requirements, although it probably won't fit a group with stricter needs.
Disclaimer: not affiliated by any means, just looked up few pages, found no demo, haven't bothered to sign-up, still have opinion (haha)
1. When two or more people are editing the same card's description, the description goes out of sync and ends up not saving either of the changes.
2. The UI doesn't feel very snappy -- it feels kind of slow.
3. The state field of a column has no other purpose right now than to mark it as completed so that cards end up moving there automatically when completed. Perhaps show the state field somewhere?
4. Why are cards automatically moved when completed? I liked Trello because I can organize it in whatever way I wish..I'll turn off the Completed lane for now.
5. I can't assign more than one label/tag/color to a card.
This feedback is invaluable to us. We've been receiving a lot since this post hit No.1 this morning and the development team will be hard at work for the coming weeks implementing the best of the suggestions we have got.
Thanks!
This may be the funniest tagline I've ever seen.