Ask HN: Salary history in background check
I accepted a new job, and they are initiating a background check through a 3rd party service. That service is asking for my employment history, and my starting+ending salary at each past employer.
Is it reasonable for me to decline to provide the salary information (or to fill in $0 in each field if it's required)? I didn't provide my current salary to them in negotiations (so I have no need to "prove" it to them), and I do not want my salary data to be present in yet another online system (that will probably be hacked at some point so my salary data will be publicly accessible in a .torrent data dump).
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[ 3.0 ms ] story [ 30.7 ms ] threadI also don't like to provide these numbers; my usual (in my view, perfectly ethnical and justified) dodge goes as follows:
(1) I give them 1 or 2 numbers that are easily verifiable -- and which I don't mind being "leaked" -- e.g. FT salaries at bigcorps in the past few years. This is in accordance with basic game theory / negotiating strategy (whereby if you make a partial concession to people, they feel they have an "out" and and can save face, rather than press you for a full concession to what they were asking for).
(2) As to the rest, I say "my clients / employers have asked that this information be kept confidential, and I'd like to honor their requests."
Your suggestion to raise the issue of unintentional leaks (due to concerns about cloud security) is quite excellent, and I may incorporate it into my dodge strategy, also.
The bottom line is that most of the people asking are basically drones who don't really know why they're asking, just that someone told them to (or they have some vague sense that it will provide them with some kind of negotiating leverage).
At the end of day, you don't have to play their games -- but keep in mind that you'll incur a 30% or so automatic rejection chance for doing so, across the board. My gut feeling is that companies that are sticklers aren't really all that desirable to work for, anyway.
The background check is unavoidable. It's a liability maneuver for the employer. The most invasive check I've had is them just requiring two years of prior tax returns (I think to verify employment because the previous employers no longer existed).
As far as wording about your private data being hacked in the future, that's just the world we live in. You can't avoid it if you want to live within current societal normals. (Also, for many jobs, salary information is fully public like all government positions.)
My past employer in the UK was absolutely clear to everyone that joined something like "For staff that resign, we will only verify date an duration of tenure, and department and position title. All current serving staff are prohibited from providing references and endanger their position by doing so, etc..."
Living in China, and with both very large and smaller companies (international and local) in HR or close-to-HR functions, the HR manager would most likely meet this request with the delete key on their keyboard, or at best a canned response.
I share this because I'm surprised employers would actually disclose this, for how it can feed back on their own operations (for example, a predatory competitor using this information).