Correct me if I'm wrong since I don't really know how it works .... but the video shows no such thing. It shows the car exiting full-auto mode with a panic alarm to the user telling them to take over.
So Musk said to keep hands on the wheel all the time, but these morons still do whatever they think they want and then complain. The car started beeping while it still was on proper line, if only he had his hands on a wheel he would have simply just start steering as usual, but the time it took him to 1. Realize its beeping, 2. Lift up his arms and put them on a steering. could have lead to an accident, and he obviously was not following instructions of Tesla
Seeing a link to the dailymail is a hint that HN may be jumping the shark. This is a UK rag of a paper.
Clearly this driver is outside of the recommended highway driving scenario. There are multiple warnings both audible and big red indications on the sensor dash that automation is about to stop.
Would we have a problem if I set cruise control in my Mazda to 60MPH then drove off a tight bend? No, we would call this driver error.
Anyway, even if it is the driver's fault, it will be news. Self-driving cars is a hot topic. It's probably a good idea for Tesla owners to watch these to remind them that it really is a limited auto-pilot.
Tesla could collect a lot of driving data from their 60,000+ drivers. Hopefully, they report every warning back to their data centers.
The daily mail is trash, but this is nonetheless newsworthy. This is a classic case of risk compensation[0].
As we get more of these kind of driving assist systems, people will be less careful about driving. The better they work, the less attention people will pay to driving until we hit that magic bar where the car is fully self-driving with no possible situation where the user has to intervene.
EDIT: seriously, this article got flagged off the frontpage? I know I'm replying in a vacuum now, but this is just sad. This was newsworthy, interesting and could have led to a good discussion.
I believe Tesla also advised that it was meant for highway and very occasional street use as well. The video seems to take place on a two-lane curvy road. I know the indicator comes on letting you know that you can enable the mode, but that doesn't mean you should.
> 'I admit I started to ignore the warning to keep my hands on the wheel so that I could record the moment to share with friends,' YouTube user RockStarTree wrote.
This right here is what I fear about this trickle-down from "autonomous cars" to regular cars. We're quite a ways from having the technical and legal framework for fully self-driving cars (in the sense that you can be drunk/sleeping/whatever while the car drives, and carry no liability), but all this development ends up in "driving assist" systems.
As more and more driving assist systems get integrated into regular cars, people will pay less attention to driving due to risk compensation. And that may cause more accidents than it prevents.
I'm excited about self-driving cars. I'm not in the least excited about sort-of-mostly-self-driving-cars where I have to sit there, not doing anything, but still have to be alert and ready to take over at any moment.
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[ 3.1 ms ] story [ 39.8 ms ] threadSomeone miss an edge case? I hope Tesla has a "report incident" button.
Clearly this driver is outside of the recommended highway driving scenario. There are multiple warnings both audible and big red indications on the sensor dash that automation is about to stop.
Would we have a problem if I set cruise control in my Mazda to 60MPH then drove off a tight bend? No, we would call this driver error.
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/oct/21/tesla-auto...
The story has been out for a couple days: http://www.cnet.com/news/tesla-autopilot-fail-videos-nobody-...
The Daily Mail didn't break the story.
Anyway, even if it is the driver's fault, it will be news. Self-driving cars is a hot topic. It's probably a good idea for Tesla owners to watch these to remind them that it really is a limited auto-pilot.
Tesla could collect a lot of driving data from their 60,000+ drivers. Hopefully, they report every warning back to their data centers.
As we get more of these kind of driving assist systems, people will be less careful about driving. The better they work, the less attention people will pay to driving until we hit that magic bar where the car is fully self-driving with no possible situation where the user has to intervene.
EDIT: seriously, this article got flagged off the frontpage? I know I'm replying in a vacuum now, but this is just sad. This was newsworthy, interesting and could have led to a good discussion.
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risk_compensation
But there has to be a better source for this than the daily mail which should be blacklisted on HN
This right here is what I fear about this trickle-down from "autonomous cars" to regular cars. We're quite a ways from having the technical and legal framework for fully self-driving cars (in the sense that you can be drunk/sleeping/whatever while the car drives, and carry no liability), but all this development ends up in "driving assist" systems.
As more and more driving assist systems get integrated into regular cars, people will pay less attention to driving due to risk compensation. And that may cause more accidents than it prevents.
I'm excited about self-driving cars. I'm not in the least excited about sort-of-mostly-self-driving-cars where I have to sit there, not doing anything, but still have to be alert and ready to take over at any moment.