Yes, this is a new emerging market. But soon everyone will realize that they don't want to spend 1/3 of their lives just sleeping. As there is such an incredible opportunity which can be easily reached with our wearable.
It's an old market dating back to the 80's that's getting popular again. Called us Reality Hackers at one point. I like that name for more than it's original purpose.
Glad to hear that! But the truth is that stimulation lasts for several seconds each REM phase. If you have any other questions I will be glad to answer.
Sure! There is no magic behind this, but for most people it is very hard to get there. Not everyone will have enough power of will to teach themselves control their dream plot.
Instead of drifting off into sleep focus on a narrative. I try to imagine myself doing things and create new characters as I go, I do this until I notice the sides of third eye start to go blurry and colours start to pour in, that's how I know I'm sleeping.
No practice, just came naturally to me. Learned this while on shrooms and focusing on the visuals, then tried it off them.
EC1's advice about a narrative is good. Also, try to just passively let the transition happen rather than forcing or worrying about it. Hard part for many.
One thing others haven't brought up is how LD and astral projection experiments showed conscious mind is weak/short-lasting and subconscious mind is strong/long-lasting. So try to leverage latter. Repetition and sensory input (visualization) are nest ways to prime the subconscious. You just get it into back of your mind enough that it (a) adds to starting it and (b) keeps it going once conscious mind drifts off.
I'll give you an interesting example of utilizing subconscious. Monroe wanted to have Out of Body Experience but couldn't consciously separate: stayed fully awake or asleep. So, he dehydrated himself for days while repeatedly getting up from bed to fill a glass from sink then pour it out. Thirst was hard to ignore but he did. Also did heart slowdowns and physical relaxation to make his body sleep each night. One night he went to kitchen to get water but his hand went right through the faucet. Went back to find himself in bed, resulting in instant awakening.
Hallucination or spirit, the reason he went OBE and lucid was the repetitive influence of his subconscious to go for thd sink when thirsty with the cheat of being thirsty constantly. His mind turned off, subconscious did as programmed, and woke him up in mid-dream. Cool, eh? All kinds of programming that's less extreme.
I'm sorry, but the website is virtually unusable. A few barely-comprehensible paragraphs of hyperbolic sales talk, and links to the shop.
Explain to me what your product does, and why I should care, and I might be interested.
Thanks for the feedback! Luciding reinvents the traditional understanding of dreaming. All you need to do is to put on our headband device and go to sleep. The device detects REM sleep and pushes mild electronic stimulation. Your consciousness wakes up in a dream and you can control your dream.
Please for the love of sanity, take this advice to heart! Just having "A smart headband and an application to induce lucid dreams" on the landing page would go miles!
Worst scrolling of any website of any website I've ever used. I can't get it to stop on the second slide.
Seriously people, when can we drop this obsession with landing pages that hijack the scroll bar and turn a document into some sort of slide show? I just want to scroll down and read your content, but instead I'm forced to try touching my trackpad in various spurts trying to get it to stop when needed.
Even with 5 items, it's bad. It would be better if they just disabled scrolling altogether and gave me a big "next" button to click on - at least then it would be possible to reach a discrete slide.
I think this might have looked good on whatever device it was designed for (I'm guessing PC+mouse), but as soon as you try to interact with it using a trackpad or mobile the experience turns to shit.
At least it has a scroll bar. It works really badly, in that it doesn't actually scroll the page, but it's there. I have seen this kind of page which didn't.
The scroll wheel is interestingly broken, though. It looks like a single movement triggers a transition to the next slide, and then all input is ignored for a couple of seconds. The same applies to the keyboard, so pressing the down arrow key a couple of times will move once.
I know the people behind the site are here, reading these comments, so I don't want to sound rude, but... I'm really interested in lucid dreaming, not being able to do it myself, so I am precisely the target market for this device, and even I am finding myself turned off by this website. It's actively hampering marketing the product.
Lucid dreaming is exhausting. When I was younger I trained myself to maintain that thread of control as a fell asleep. It is an incredibly powerful experience to be able to command every aspect of reality. I didn't wake up rested though, it was the exact opposite. Managing both my own actions and decisions and the entire world I was interacting with wiped me out.
As a side note, it was much harder to learn to stop doing it, than to start.
I can't do it (or rather, it's happened maybe once or twice in my life) --- I don't have a strong enough grasp of reality! When I'm in a dream, I am playing the character in the dream, so any strange events will always come across as completely normal to me. Which means most of the standard lucid dreaming tricks won't work on me.
Interestingly, however, I do get another thing, which I haven't seen described anywhere, which I'll dub false memory syndrome: while in the hypnogogic state on the edge of sleep, sometimes my memory will change. I'll still be me, unlike with ordinary dreaming, but with a whole new backstory. Unfortunately I don't remember the new backstory afterwards, so all I retain are second-order memories; memories of thinking about the backstory.
e.g. once I was suddenly convinced I'd committed some sort of crime or other, and was wondering whether to try and run or resign myself to going to prison. No idea what the crime was now (I'd quite like to know what my subconscious was worried about).
This has happened to me so often I will occasionally think, hmm, this is odd, I wonder if it's false memory syndrome again? Which is a classic lucid memory trigger. Except I'm not really asleep, and I will always decide that it's not.
After waking up from the one described above, I was really relieved to find out that it really was false memory syndrome.
You should avoid lucid dreaming. It can fuck up your mind if it already is too flexible in how it handles memory or reality. False memory syndrome + strong, lucid experiences that mimick aspects of your real life (including relationships) seem quite risky. Neat as it is, one's sanity is a much more rewarding experience. :)
Used journals and reality checks like looking at mirrors to get started easily. Random stuff, flying, fu... plenty of fun for a while. Then, I got to experience what lucid nightmares were like and that kind of made me hesitant. Plus my mind incorporates new things into dreams quite like my thinking in genersl does. Example of how that sometimes went bad was seeing Inception and getting stuck into 5+ deep dreams I wasnt sure Id wake up from. Simpler example was doing a whole shift to wake up in reality for work feeling the whole shift (wth...). Just said screw it lol.
Trippy part is that dream "experts" seem surprised by much of this. They should study lucid dreaming more, esp under brain scans. Might learn stuff.
I agree. I got up to the point where prob about 50% of my remembered dreams were lucid and I was pretty good at fighting the urge to wake up and the uncontrollable nod back to unconsciousness. Many years after I quit actively lucid dreaming, I still had "semi-lucid" dreams very often and it often seemed like my dreaming-self was somehow less free and more attached to my waking-self because of it. ie; i was much more often myself and preoccupied with waking anxieties in my dream.
I hope this isn't snake oil, but for some reason I don't feel like letting Russians who can't even make a proper website strap a big electromagnet to my head.
People interested in this topic should look up Monroe's Hemi Synch, old books on Lucid Dreaming (esp "reality checks"), reality hackers, and so on. Not endorsing any specific source rather than showing where most info was in 80's and 90's. This stuff goes way back.
Easiest method takes persistence rather than tech. Try to remember dreams, write details in journal each morning, and use reality checks all thfough the day until they're habit. Look those up on net as there's good examples. My favorites are how, in dreams, (a) mirrors oftdn have no reflection and (b) text you write changes if you look away then back again. Also regular naps in day with high REM.
A few weeks in you will look into a mirror and see nothing. Lucid. ;) Just don't do it if you have mental disorders or high stress. After all, it amplifies what's in your mind and you want to be in control.
I think the site is ok.
But if I can offer some constructive criticism, the english needs to be fixed:
"It is really ahead of time among Lucid Dreaming enhancement devices and technologies."
"Live out an extremely unforgettable night experience with the device that literally tunes on your dreams!"
I have a question about lucid dreaming. Is there a reliable way to tell the difference between a lucid dream and, essentially, dreaming that you are having a lucid dream, because you are preoccupied with the idea?
Seems like if you are constantly working at, reading of, and hearing about lucid dreaming, the idea would make it into your dreams, lucid or not.
Awareness is the key. When lucid, you will realize the world around you is fake, your thoughts won't be scripted, you might change things with focus, and the dream may even implode (you wake up) seconds after first awareness.
Easiest way to know difference is keep asking if you're dreaming. Right now, something is in your mind that knows you're awake that you don't feel in dreams and not for long in lucid ones. Plus, lucid dreams break rules of reality in obvious or subtle ways you'll spot. Persistent awareness of this means you'll eventually notice a discrepency from habitual checks and wake up instantly (in dream or in reality).
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No practice, just came naturally to me. Learned this while on shrooms and focusing on the visuals, then tried it off them.
I'd love to chat more about this. Can I add you on skype or something?
One thing others haven't brought up is how LD and astral projection experiments showed conscious mind is weak/short-lasting and subconscious mind is strong/long-lasting. So try to leverage latter. Repetition and sensory input (visualization) are nest ways to prime the subconscious. You just get it into back of your mind enough that it (a) adds to starting it and (b) keeps it going once conscious mind drifts off.
I'll give you an interesting example of utilizing subconscious. Monroe wanted to have Out of Body Experience but couldn't consciously separate: stayed fully awake or asleep. So, he dehydrated himself for days while repeatedly getting up from bed to fill a glass from sink then pour it out. Thirst was hard to ignore but he did. Also did heart slowdowns and physical relaxation to make his body sleep each night. One night he went to kitchen to get water but his hand went right through the faucet. Went back to find himself in bed, resulting in instant awakening.
Hallucination or spirit, the reason he went OBE and lucid was the repetitive influence of his subconscious to go for thd sink when thirsty with the cheat of being thirsty constantly. His mind turned off, subconscious did as programmed, and woke him up in mid-dream. Cool, eh? All kinds of programming that's less extreme.
You can visit our social network pages for more and ask more specific questions here. I would also recommend visiting our blog post with some feedback: http://blog.luciding.com/luciding-first-customers-feedback-o...
Seriously people, when can we drop this obsession with landing pages that hijack the scroll bar and turn a document into some sort of slide show? I just want to scroll down and read your content, but instead I'm forced to try touching my trackpad in various spurts trying to get it to stop when needed.
Its good for marketing a product as long as its kept to like under 5 items.
For showing data/information, it is a terrible way to do it. I dont want to read a powerpoint presentation.
I think this might have looked good on whatever device it was designed for (I'm guessing PC+mouse), but as soon as you try to interact with it using a trackpad or mobile the experience turns to shit.
The scroll wheel is interestingly broken, though. It looks like a single movement triggers a transition to the next slide, and then all input is ignored for a couple of seconds. The same applies to the keyboard, so pressing the down arrow key a couple of times will move once.
I know the people behind the site are here, reading these comments, so I don't want to sound rude, but... I'm really interested in lucid dreaming, not being able to do it myself, so I am precisely the target market for this device, and even I am finding myself turned off by this website. It's actively hampering marketing the product.
As a side note, it was much harder to learn to stop doing it, than to start.
Interestingly, however, I do get another thing, which I haven't seen described anywhere, which I'll dub false memory syndrome: while in the hypnogogic state on the edge of sleep, sometimes my memory will change. I'll still be me, unlike with ordinary dreaming, but with a whole new backstory. Unfortunately I don't remember the new backstory afterwards, so all I retain are second-order memories; memories of thinking about the backstory.
e.g. once I was suddenly convinced I'd committed some sort of crime or other, and was wondering whether to try and run or resign myself to going to prison. No idea what the crime was now (I'd quite like to know what my subconscious was worried about).
This has happened to me so often I will occasionally think, hmm, this is odd, I wonder if it's false memory syndrome again? Which is a classic lucid memory trigger. Except I'm not really asleep, and I will always decide that it's not.
After waking up from the one described above, I was really relieved to find out that it really was false memory syndrome.
...hang on, the police are at the door.
Trippy part is that dream "experts" seem surprised by much of this. They should study lucid dreaming more, esp under brain scans. Might learn stuff.
Quick, you have another 50 minutes to fulfil the promise before Marty and Doc arrive in their shiny band new DeLorean!
That reads like you intended it as a slur. If so, not cool.
Easiest method takes persistence rather than tech. Try to remember dreams, write details in journal each morning, and use reality checks all thfough the day until they're habit. Look those up on net as there's good examples. My favorites are how, in dreams, (a) mirrors oftdn have no reflection and (b) text you write changes if you look away then back again. Also regular naps in day with high REM.
A few weeks in you will look into a mirror and see nothing. Lucid. ;) Just don't do it if you have mental disorders or high stress. After all, it amplifies what's in your mind and you want to be in control.
"It is really ahead of time among Lucid Dreaming enhancement devices and technologies." "Live out an extremely unforgettable night experience with the device that literally tunes on your dreams!"
Seems like if you are constantly working at, reading of, and hearing about lucid dreaming, the idea would make it into your dreams, lucid or not.
Easiest way to know difference is keep asking if you're dreaming. Right now, something is in your mind that knows you're awake that you don't feel in dreams and not for long in lucid ones. Plus, lucid dreams break rules of reality in obvious or subtle ways you'll spot. Persistent awareness of this means you'll eventually notice a discrepency from habitual checks and wake up instantly (in dream or in reality).