What was very surprising was that it was a single author paper (only the prof of the group). These sort of research efforts are usually Prof+possible postdoc+a few grad students. Not sure if prof is leaving grad students out (I hope not!), or is toiling alone at this work.
I keep running into sonoluminescence lately (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonoluminescence), this kind of reminds me of that? Sonoluminescence reminds me of gravitational collapse, but I think that's probably because I need to read up more...
Very interesting stuff going on with applied physics though--the most immediate application is probably materials science (and hopefully better computers/information processing devices). "Simulating the universe better" may come to be linked with better general information processing systems too, as in discoveries in one helps the other. For instance, more work along these lines: http://arxiv.org/abs/1510.03776
120 years ago, people thought that experimental results on wave propagation in continuous media could be used to make statements about wave propagation in electrodynamics. That's how we ended up with ether theories, which were eventually falsified with interferometric experiments.
To my mind, we should take this as a lesson that the notion of analogue systems (e.g., using results from fluid dynamics to make statements about gravitation) is bogus. The ether episode seems to indicate that if we want to make statements about gravitational Hawking radiation, we need to do tests on a system where the gravitational dynamics are important (e.g., a black hole), not an unrelated system that just happens to be governed by an identical set of equations in some regime.
Another example of people incorrectly conflating properties of an analogue system with the real system of interest is the Nature monopole paper: http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v505/n7485/full/nature1...
The actual result contained in the paper is that you can make a BEC whose vorticity field has regions of nonzero divergence. It is mathematically similar to (but fundamentally unrelated to) actual magnetic monopoles. Nonetheless, the paper contains the phrase "Dirac monopoles" in the title and then spends half the abstract talking about actual magnetic monopoles, as if the result is somehow relevant to actual magnetic monopole searches (which it isn't).
I wouldn't say that. The Michelson-Morley experiment demonstrated that if there was a luminiferous ether, it had no measurable inertia. That pretty much falsified the ether as anything that we'd recognize as "real."
I've never read about the ether needing to have inertia.
Also, a modern version of the ether is pretty well accepted - quantum fields that occupy all of space. Particles etc.. are disturbances in this field. Ether is something of a tainted term these days so quantum fields are not referred to as ether.
Quantum field theory doesn't seem very much like the luminiferous ether. This seems like finding a new species of grasshopper that lives on a mountain, and saying, "Ah-ha, I've found Zeus! Zeus is a thing that lives on a mountain and has never been seen before, so this must be Zeus!"
As a counterpoint: what about the efficacy of condensed matter physics informing developments in quantum field theory?
Of course analog systems must be treated carefully, but I think we shouldn't rush to do away with the practice entirely. Naturally, we do want to study black holes directly (with experiments like LIGO, LISA, etc.), but this is very expensive, difficult, and time consuming. If a small lab wants to try out some gravitationally analogous system, why not?
>not an unrelated system that just happens to be governed by an identical set of equations in some regime.
that is exactly the point of analogue systems - identical equations have identical solutions, and thus analogue system allows to observe and explore the solutions (which in many cases aren't that easy/possible to obtain mathematically/numerically)
We have no experimental evidence that the calculations for gravitational Hawking radiation (or their physical interpretation) are valid. The notion that dumb holes exhibit all the same properties as black holes is conjectural.
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[ 0.28 ms ] story [ 41.4 ms ] threadWhat was very surprising was that it was a single author paper (only the prof of the group). These sort of research efforts are usually Prof+possible postdoc+a few grad students. Not sure if prof is leaving grad students out (I hope not!), or is toiling alone at this work.
Very interesting stuff going on with applied physics though--the most immediate application is probably materials science (and hopefully better computers/information processing devices). "Simulating the universe better" may come to be linked with better general information processing systems too, as in discoveries in one helps the other. For instance, more work along these lines: http://arxiv.org/abs/1510.03776
To my mind, we should take this as a lesson that the notion of analogue systems (e.g., using results from fluid dynamics to make statements about gravitation) is bogus. The ether episode seems to indicate that if we want to make statements about gravitational Hawking radiation, we need to do tests on a system where the gravitational dynamics are important (e.g., a black hole), not an unrelated system that just happens to be governed by an identical set of equations in some regime.
Another example of people incorrectly conflating properties of an analogue system with the real system of interest is the Nature monopole paper: http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v505/n7485/full/nature1... The actual result contained in the paper is that you can make a BEC whose vorticity field has regions of nonzero divergence. It is mathematically similar to (but fundamentally unrelated to) actual magnetic monopoles. Nonetheless, the paper contains the phrase "Dirac monopoles" in the title and then spends half the abstract talking about actual magnetic monopoles, as if the result is somehow relevant to actual magnetic monopole searches (which it isn't).
Also, a modern version of the ether is pretty well accepted - quantum fields that occupy all of space. Particles etc.. are disturbances in this field. Ether is something of a tainted term these days so quantum fields are not referred to as ether.
Of course analog systems must be treated carefully, but I think we shouldn't rush to do away with the practice entirely. Naturally, we do want to study black holes directly (with experiments like LIGO, LISA, etc.), but this is very expensive, difficult, and time consuming. If a small lab wants to try out some gravitationally analogous system, why not?
that is exactly the point of analogue systems - identical equations have identical solutions, and thus analogue system allows to observe and explore the solutions (which in many cases aren't that easy/possible to obtain mathematically/numerically)