I never understood how things got so low or why people make a big thing out of these things. The person making the pull request, who was later hired by the 18F, was doing this to show how virtuous he was.
Yet, it showed a huge ignorance and ethnocentrism to the fact that other contributors on the project speak english as a second language. One of the developers being criticized first language is a gendered language [1].
This would make me a bit afraid to seek employment at 18F. It leaves me the impression you could be picked on or mobbed for completely innocent things.
I worked with Alex for about a year and they landed a brilliant developer, so good job to them. If caring about inclusivity is "cheap bullying", it's gonna be hard to hire non-"bullies".
As far as the gendered languages, I think that's a bad argument. If I was using a word (maybe a variable name or something) that was a swear word or offensive in another language and someone corrected me, I'd merge without issue.
These stunts did nothing for inclusivity. They caused controversy and split people apart.
This isn't the hacker way.
Even females I know making tech weren't comfortable with this. Some found it patronizing, others dismissed it as sophistic.
They all are worried that men in tech will consider females to be hypersensitive troublemakers.
Frankly, these days I have more bias against women than I ever had before these stunts. If I hire a female, is she going to stir up a fuss over whatever's the latest blame politic trending on Twitter? That would put women at a disadvantage.
I admire the idea of helping the weak. I disagree that this was the way to go about it. I reiterate that shaming and nitpicking can feel quite bullying - even to men.
Maybe as someone who represents 98.5% of the field, you should stop pretending to speak for the 1.5%. Have you ever thought that there may be selection bias in play regarding the "even females I know?" Notwithstanding that, what is your n that you're using to justify broad generalizations?
Also, bear in mind that you are implying women are "the weak". That's enough for me to discredit anything you have to say on the matter, especially considering your post is completely off topic and is witch-hunting.
If you're never subject to frequent microaggression (of which you've just made in your reply), it can be hard to understand how significant they really are.
> If you're never subject to frequent microaggression (of which you've just made in your reply), it can be hard to understand how significant they really are.
Anybody can be mobbed or subjected to unfair circumstances in the workplace.
While some take such critical offense to things on the micro level, there are thousands of men in the valley who sacrificed so much, tolerated unfair circumstances, and never opted to view themselves as the victim. They grew to be stronger people because of it.
It may come as a surprise, the feelings you're experiencing don't represent what me and my colleagues are seeing.
Have you visited their website? Right on the main page is a link to their projects, "Learn more about what we're building and how we're doing it.". Links to https://18f.gsa.gov/dashboard/ with over a couple dozen different government projects they're involved with.
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I'm surprised you could pull cheap bullying like that and get hired anywhere afterwards, it's pretty much a tell you'd stir up drama somewhere else.
I never understood how things got so low or why people make a big thing out of these things. The person making the pull request, who was later hired by the 18F, was doing this to show how virtuous he was.
Yet, it showed a huge ignorance and ethnocentrism to the fact that other contributors on the project speak english as a second language. One of the developers being criticized first language is a gendered language [1].
[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammatical_gender
This would make me a bit afraid to seek employment at 18F. It leaves me the impression you could be picked on or mobbed for completely innocent things.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKsOwJ8AGWo
As far as the gendered languages, I think that's a bad argument. If I was using a word (maybe a variable name or something) that was a swear word or offensive in another language and someone corrected me, I'd merge without issue.
This isn't the hacker way.
Even females I know making tech weren't comfortable with this. Some found it patronizing, others dismissed it as sophistic.
They all are worried that men in tech will consider females to be hypersensitive troublemakers.
Frankly, these days I have more bias against women than I ever had before these stunts. If I hire a female, is she going to stir up a fuss over whatever's the latest blame politic trending on Twitter? That would put women at a disadvantage.
I admire the idea of helping the weak. I disagree that this was the way to go about it. I reiterate that shaming and nitpicking can feel quite bullying - even to men.
Also, bear in mind that you are implying women are "the weak". That's enough for me to discredit anything you have to say on the matter, especially considering your post is completely off topic and is witch-hunting.
If you're never subject to frequent microaggression (of which you've just made in your reply), it can be hard to understand how significant they really are.
Anybody can be mobbed or subjected to unfair circumstances in the workplace.
While some take such critical offense to things on the micro level, there are thousands of men in the valley who sacrificed so much, tolerated unfair circumstances, and never opted to view themselves as the victim. They grew to be stronger people because of it.
It may come as a surprise, the feelings you're experiencing don't represent what me and my colleagues are seeing.