Please let me know if you have any issues. It's on a bit of a small slice right now, which could change depending on how things go. Also let me know if you find any glaring mentions of reddit.com that I might have missed while skinning. Thanks!
Nothing, except that this is likely to become a hangout for Princeton Economics PhD students given my history and friends. They usually find some pretty interesting stuff and make good comments.
Excellent! I think it's a great field, and I think that there's room for a bunch of different economic social news sites out there. And, all those different sites tend to have different flavors right now.
http://www.viewsflow.com/ Strikes me as being more from a journalistic sensibility, so the vibe I'm getting from them is that the list of articles that is curated/edited by high reputation people on the site. I think it's an interesting take on the social news site, and it leverages the founders backgrounds in print journalism. I'm interested in seeing what they end up with.
http://www.markenomics.com/ Its a HN clone that's devoted to financial and economic news. There's some good stuff posted, but it doesn't seem like there's a great number of people involved on the site. I really wish you guys the best. I loved NewMogul when it was around. I was sad to see it go.
http://newsley.com is my baby, and it's where I'm putting all of my spare attention for the next year or two. Right now, it's a bare bones social news site. After the site and community gets to the point where it "lives" on its own, we're going to be spending a lot more time building different types of recommendation and following systems into the site.
My hypothesis is that when a site gets too big and passes dunbar's number, the sense of community and camaraderie on the site slowly dwindles, and trolls start to run rampant.
So, if you can segment the community members of a site into smaller groups via recommendations and following, you can sub-communities and sub networks that still are under dunbar's number.
That's the theory at least. We need more active users before we can test some of this out, but I'm pretty excited about the prospects. We've been growing at a steady clip the last 3 months. If people are interested, I'd be happy to post our traffic stats.
Some hopefully constructive criticism: you absolutely need to enable login using openID/FB connect. I'm not going to create an account on a site where I've not yet decided if I'm going to spend more than 5 minutes. You're going to fail to convert a huge percent of potential users at that step.
On the positive side, your design/stylesheet is much better than HN, IMO. (For example, on HN I keep voting up/down when I mean the opposite because the damn arrows are too close to each other.) Having 1-2 line summaries of articles is also very useful.
I disagree on openid/fbconnect. If registering logs people in, and if it's barebones email+password, it takes me as many keystrokes to register as it does to login with openid. Add in the ability to read without logging in, and I don't see the point of building openID.
OpenID is not a bad idea, but I think it's non-essential. What am I missing?
The issue is a new ID (not so much) and a new password (the big issue). The password is a show stopper for me as I am not going to re-use one of my existing passwords because I have no idea how this site secures passwords. And the last thing I want right now is a new password. It would be much better to just use OpenID/FBConnect.
Thanks for the feedback, man. I really appreciate it. I'm really not a fan of openID, however. I think it's too big of a pain in the ass for non-geeks. I'll have to look at doing something with FB connect, though. I just started noodling around their api's this past week.
And,thanks for the kudos on the design. I've been tweaking it quite a bit the past month. I've found the summaries useful as well. I have a hunch that one of the reasons that Digg has outpaced Reddit for quite some time, is that Google has more text to index with Digg's summaries, and is therefore more Google friendly and gets more organic search traffic. We'll see how that decision pans out.
http://www.viewsflow.com/ is my thing--good explanation of what we are trying to do. I admit that we don't do a great job on the site right now--i am working on that as we speak.
The plan is this:
* watch thousands of people sharing content through Tw, Del, Fb, etc.
* build up an influence model--who is a good discriminator on stuff about China? Or about tech industry?
* present an aggregated view of what the 'top discriminators' recommend in each of the fields they are genuinely good at
* anyone can become an expert--based on how good your content recommendations are (as evaluated by our algorithms)
* make it bigger
the community stuff is teetering around--hasn't yet taken off. we have some ideas about how to make it take off, and am open for your suggestions.
the problem with all of these is the chicken/egg problem. I do not come to hacker news primarily for the articles (many of which show up on my other feeds). the primary value is the intelligent comments I read here.
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I would suggest a more neutral color scheme, btw.
http://Newsley.com/
http://www.markenomics.com/
http://www.viewsflow.com/
http://www.viewsflow.com/ Strikes me as being more from a journalistic sensibility, so the vibe I'm getting from them is that the list of articles that is curated/edited by high reputation people on the site. I think it's an interesting take on the social news site, and it leverages the founders backgrounds in print journalism. I'm interested in seeing what they end up with.
http://www.markenomics.com/ Its a HN clone that's devoted to financial and economic news. There's some good stuff posted, but it doesn't seem like there's a great number of people involved on the site. I really wish you guys the best. I loved NewMogul when it was around. I was sad to see it go.
http://newsley.com is my baby, and it's where I'm putting all of my spare attention for the next year or two. Right now, it's a bare bones social news site. After the site and community gets to the point where it "lives" on its own, we're going to be spending a lot more time building different types of recommendation and following systems into the site.
My hypothesis is that when a site gets too big and passes dunbar's number, the sense of community and camaraderie on the site slowly dwindles, and trolls start to run rampant.
So, if you can segment the community members of a site into smaller groups via recommendations and following, you can sub-communities and sub networks that still are under dunbar's number.
That's the theory at least. We need more active users before we can test some of this out, but I'm pretty excited about the prospects. We've been growing at a steady clip the last 3 months. If people are interested, I'd be happy to post our traffic stats.
On the positive side, your design/stylesheet is much better than HN, IMO. (For example, on HN I keep voting up/down when I mean the opposite because the damn arrows are too close to each other.) Having 1-2 line summaries of articles is also very useful.
OpenID is not a bad idea, but I think it's non-essential. What am I missing?
But the point is, most people don't care about reusing passwords. Even most people on HN.
This is just another example of us techies getting distracted by things we care about. The goal is to build something people will use. Privacy just doesn't matter. (http://gettingreal.37signals.com/ch05_It_Just_Doesnt_Matter....)
And,thanks for the kudos on the design. I've been tweaking it quite a bit the past month. I've found the summaries useful as well. I have a hunch that one of the reasons that Digg has outpaced Reddit for quite some time, is that Google has more text to index with Digg's summaries, and is therefore more Google friendly and gets more organic search traffic. We'll see how that decision pans out.
The plan is this: * watch thousands of people sharing content through Tw, Del, Fb, etc. * build up an influence model--who is a good discriminator on stuff about China? Or about tech industry? * present an aggregated view of what the 'top discriminators' recommend in each of the fields they are genuinely good at * anyone can become an expert--based on how good your content recommendations are (as evaluated by our algorithms) * make it bigger
the community stuff is teetering around--hasn't yet taken off. we have some ideas about how to make it take off, and am open for your suggestions.
Hope your site does the same in one year...
good luck
[I know finance is more sexy these days. Call me old-fashioned but I still believe in basic science]