It is also a question I ask myself. I haven't found a single motivation in myself that is not in some degree externally triggered. Even the fear of losing respect of your equals (coworkers, friends, family), although maybe just a fantasy in your head, can still be argued to be external.
"Even the fear of losing respect of your equals (coworkers, friends, family), although maybe just a fantasy in your head, can still be argued to be external."
How could that be? It is not maybe, it is a fantasy in your head.
This fantasy could be very similar to reality, so I prefer the word "simulation", as this is what it is: you simulate the future in your head with the knowledge you got in the past.
In the past you got trained like a Paulov dog about what society expected from you, for example being raised as a catholic could mean sex with other people = bad, liking money= bad,being humble=good, sharing=good, competing with others=bad.
If you don't get out of your original society your prediction could be very accurate, specially if you accept it without resistance.
In the past I faced all my environment(friends, family and lovers), but instead of accepting it I fought it, and interesting enough they were the ones who in the end accepted it.
“Whether you think you can, or you think you can't--you're right.”H.Ford
“But there is no real evidence that intrinsic motivation even exists.”
Yes, there is.
I have a Labrador dog, every time she watches a puddle, she wants to get in. Most Labrador dogs do the same with every source of water. I have not told my dog to like water.
Dogs also respond naturally to bunnies in the field.
We are not that different from dogs. I need to know how things work internally, I disassembled every electronic machine in my house when I was a kid because I HAD TO KNOW how those things worked, and nobody told me to do it, on the contrary I was punished by my parents as some of those did not come back to live(until I learned to do it well).
No matter the punishment I will do it anyway because there was something inside me that pushed me. I got so good that I will disassemble something and nobody will notice.
I have met people that needed to dance, or paint, or play music or create no matter how badly paid they were.
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How could that be? It is not maybe, it is a fantasy in your head.
This fantasy could be very similar to reality, so I prefer the word "simulation", as this is what it is: you simulate the future in your head with the knowledge you got in the past.
In the past you got trained like a Paulov dog about what society expected from you, for example being raised as a catholic could mean sex with other people = bad, liking money= bad,being humble=good, sharing=good, competing with others=bad.
If you don't get out of your original society your prediction could be very accurate, specially if you accept it without resistance.
In the past I faced all my environment(friends, family and lovers), but instead of accepting it I fought it, and interesting enough they were the ones who in the end accepted it.
“Whether you think you can, or you think you can't--you're right.”H.Ford
Yes, there is.
I have a Labrador dog, every time she watches a puddle, she wants to get in. Most Labrador dogs do the same with every source of water. I have not told my dog to like water.
Dogs also respond naturally to bunnies in the field.
We are not that different from dogs. I need to know how things work internally, I disassembled every electronic machine in my house when I was a kid because I HAD TO KNOW how those things worked, and nobody told me to do it, on the contrary I was punished by my parents as some of those did not come back to live(until I learned to do it well).
No matter the punishment I will do it anyway because there was something inside me that pushed me. I got so good that I will disassemble something and nobody will notice.
I have met people that needed to dance, or paint, or play music or create no matter how badly paid they were.
Booooooooooooooooooooooring.
- Intrinsic vs. extrinsic is not sufficient to fully describe the range of motivation
- intrinsic isn't well-defined
- Extrinsic can work well, too
- It's not proven that intrinsic makes happier