I would imagine that is why the nice graphic[1] has a "Confidential: For Your Eyes Only" red stamp on it. Well, when you are part of a "New Urban Tribe"[2], I guess you should feel superior to everyone else.
2) "The brazen quality of this new urban tribe spoke to the power users who contributed weekly, if not daily and hourly, to the site." from the article
> Instead, they’ve declared that legally, Yelp is entirely allowed to extort restaurants. In case you’ve forgotten, almost exactly a year ago, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco ruled that Yelp was well within its rights to extort restaurants. As above, Yelp desperately and frantically claims they don’t actually do this because to admit to what they’re widely accused of would be to pull back the curtain on the shell game that many, many restaurant owners believe is Yelp’s core business model. The first part of the above statement is thus simple PR sleight of hand; the lawsuits have been dismissed, but not because they’re not true—because legally, Yelp is perfectly free to engage in whatever extortionist practices it feels like.
Actually, the ruling stated that there was no evidence of Yelp behaving the way they were accused of. It went on to say that, even if they were, it would at worst constitute hard bargaining and not extortion.
I worked at Yelp for two years as a software engineer. I have seen everything there is to see: the code, the databases, etc. There is no extortion table. There is no extortion code. Businesses like to make this claim because it generates sympathy and attention. It's just not true.
Why would any of it show up in the code? As I recall, what Yelp is accused of is making fake bad reviews that go away if you give them money. That could easily be a manual process done by sales people.
The sales people don't have access to the content moderation systems. As far as it showing up in code, I was just making the point that there is no file containing something like
if business_has_paid_extortion_money:
show_good_reviews()
else:
show_bad_reviews()
... which is how people seem to think it works.
There is also no code to allow manual review ordering. They are sorted according by an algorithm with a variety of inputs including who you are friends with, who has Elite status, etc.
It could be because you posted a link to Jezebel, which is largely reactionary manufactured-outrage shlock. "Hey guys the courts totally said that Yelp is free to do whatever extortion they want, isn't that crazy?! Get your pitchforks out!" Their style is just not conducive to civil, well-reasoned discussion.
Is this anything other than a massive puff piece/Yelp marketing material? I could only read about how amazing and revolutionary and game-changing Yelp was (and just how gosh-darn cool this brazen squad of elite tastemakers is [yes, we are referring to Yelp reviewers here]) so many times before giving up on finding an interesting insight.
From what I gather, they needed people to participate (because this is a social website, not just 1s and 0s, you see), so they created a community-based incentive program. Groundbreaking.
Was it just me, or is the tone of this article really off-putting? It seems like the author is praising how Yelp did everything right and all their past decisions are Just Great. There's no mention of any missteps the company made. The reality is that startups make mistakes, and Yelp is not an exception. It's like the author is telling a rosy story of the company past and omitting all the bad parts.
Jeremy Stoppelman, the co-founder of Yelp, has a much more modest story of why they started Yelp Elite.
"[W]e had at the time one marketing person who was like, ”Maybe we should meet some of our users that are addicted Yelpers now. . . . They’re in San Francisco; we’re in San Francisco, it can’t be that hard to meet up.” And I thought, ”That’s a great idea, let’s look these people in the eye.” . . . We had this first meeting; it was this really social bunch that came out and met up with us for drinks, and we’re like, ”Wow, this is really interesting.” [The meetings] sort of spun out of that. We did our major event [at] Armani Café. It was really successful. People had a great time. . . . So it just seemed like, ”Hey this really fits and makes a ton of sense, so let’s just keep doing it.” And so we kept doing it, and it got bigger and bigger and now [we’re] a little notorious for it."
(Quote sourced from the 2011 HBS case study on Yelp)
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2) "The brazen quality of this new urban tribe spoke to the power users who contributed weekly, if not daily and hourly, to the site." from the article
http://kitchenette.jezebel.com/yelp-downgrades-restaurants-r...
> Instead, they’ve declared that legally, Yelp is entirely allowed to extort restaurants. In case you’ve forgotten, almost exactly a year ago, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco ruled that Yelp was well within its rights to extort restaurants. As above, Yelp desperately and frantically claims they don’t actually do this because to admit to what they’re widely accused of would be to pull back the curtain on the shell game that many, many restaurant owners believe is Yelp’s core business model. The first part of the above statement is thus simple PR sleight of hand; the lawsuits have been dismissed, but not because they’re not true—because legally, Yelp is perfectly free to engage in whatever extortionist practices it feels like.
I worked at Yelp for two years as a software engineer. I have seen everything there is to see: the code, the databases, etc. There is no extortion table. There is no extortion code. Businesses like to make this claim because it generates sympathy and attention. It's just not true.
There is also no code to allow manual review ordering. They are sorted according by an algorithm with a variety of inputs including who you are friends with, who has Elite status, etc.
From what I gather, they needed people to participate (because this is a social website, not just 1s and 0s, you see), so they created a community-based incentive program. Groundbreaking.
Jeremy Stoppelman, the co-founder of Yelp, has a much more modest story of why they started Yelp Elite.
"[W]e had at the time one marketing person who was like, ”Maybe we should meet some of our users that are addicted Yelpers now. . . . They’re in San Francisco; we’re in San Francisco, it can’t be that hard to meet up.” And I thought, ”That’s a great idea, let’s look these people in the eye.” . . . We had this first meeting; it was this really social bunch that came out and met up with us for drinks, and we’re like, ”Wow, this is really interesting.” [The meetings] sort of spun out of that. We did our major event [at] Armani Café. It was really successful. People had a great time. . . . So it just seemed like, ”Hey this really fits and makes a ton of sense, so let’s just keep doing it.” And so we kept doing it, and it got bigger and bigger and now [we’re] a little notorious for it."
(Quote sourced from the 2011 HBS case study on Yelp)