Ask HN: Experience with netbooks
I just bought a netbook (LG X130) with around $500, but it's nice and not slow.
It has two buttons: one to start the Windows OS and the other to start a weired platform that LG made (a browser + Skype + things like that).
It's not bad to use Windows (XP right now); but I'm using this little device just to browse the internet (sites like HN, read emails, watch videos and chat).
I read about Android but I don't know it; can it work in netbooks? Also what's your experience with netbooks? What platform, apps.. do you use? and why?
Thanks for your replies!
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[ 2.1 ms ] story [ 38.4 ms ] threadI used ubuntu netbook remix and windows xp. Found both to work moderately well performance wise.
I had the Asus 1000HE (a 10.1") with the same 92% of normal size keyboard and I just never got used to it. I have an easier time typing on my Blackberry (which is such a different experience that my normal keyboard reaching instincts don't apply)
I fell for the netbook hype and bought a Mini 9. What I wanted was a convenient way to quickly get on the web to get movie times or weather or check my email. What I got was a laptop that boots up slower than my Macbook, with a screen that is too small, a processor too slow, and a keyboard prone to typos. It's infinitely easier to just open the lid on the sleeping Macbook instead.
At this point, the Mini 9 basically only sees use as a streaming media player for the kids. It's actually usable for that.
That said, I hold out hope for Chromium OS netbooks. I played around Dell's build of Chromium OS on the Mini 9 and it shows great potential. It booted up and was ready to browse the web in about 15 seconds.
So my advice - wait until Chromium OS netbooks start popping up this fall.
I run Firefox and have it setup to launch in full screen mode so the screen real estate actually feels fairly decent for what it is.
I tend to use it for watching itunes movies or netflix before bed as well. The only complaint I have is that the wifi is slow when you aren't plugged in to an AC outlet.
Eventually I gave up and got a discounted previous generation MacBook Air. Same weight, but a usable computer running the same OS as my desktop. Much better!
Could I use it for work? Probably not. The screen is too small, and the keyboard is uncomfortable to type on. It's great for just fooling around on the internet and playing the occasional game of nethack ;)
i use it pretty much exclusively as a web browser, accessing web apps, and as an ssh terminal to do web dev work on my slice. no high powered apps to make it seem sluggish.
I have to say I love it. Just the right size, capable, and decent Ubuntu support.
I'm currently running Ubuntu Karmic, (normal, not UNR). The screen feels cramped at times (800x480), but it hasn't been a huge issue. One problem I had was dialog boxes' confirmation buttons running off the bottom of the screen, but then I found that alt+click&drag moves the window.
The 701sd comes with a 8gb ssd, and an internal SD card reader. I got a 8gb SDHC card, but 16gb is still restrictive at times, so I have to run at absolute minimum and clean stuff up regularly.
Webapps can be a bit slow, and flash is a bitch. I can watch most flash videos, but not in fullscreen. Non-flash videos work fine up to about 780p. Above that and the videos start to stutter.
Battery life was nice when I bought it (3hrs+), but now I'm down to about 1.5 hrs on a full charge. Annoying but not crippling.
The biggest issue I've had is with the charger. My Eeepc is about 6 months old, and the charger gave out yesterday. My friend's charger also gave out recently, and he bought his Eeepc about the same time as me.
In summary, I miss the big screen and full-size keyboard of my old laptop, but this Eeepc is pretty much perfect for my needs right now.
Edit: it helps that the girls think it's "cute"
I never turn it off, I goes to sleep when I close it. It's a bit slower to wake up from standby compared to my macbook, but that's ok because I intend to be working on it for atleast 30 minutes. I use emacs inside a GNU Screen, so when I get home I can just ssh into it and continue working where I left off -- but with a proper screen+keyboard.
The machine is horribly slow when using Windows XP, completely unusable. Don't get a budget machine like this unless you run linux with a light-weight window manager, etc..
The keyboard is tiny, but good enough. And I love the form factor, the macbook I used before this was too big and heavy to carry around all the time, but this netbook is coming with me on almost every trip.
The keyboard on the Dell is laid out slightly better than the Eeepc (IMO), and it runs Windows 7 fast enough for the majority of what I do. I went with the 6 cell battery, so start up time isn't an issue (just put it to sleep).
My only issues with it are that the screen resolution is too small to do any real coding on (but big enough in a pinch) and flash video can get a little choppy.
No other issues, and I use it constantly, either by itself, or as a secondary machine when working on my desktop.
6-Cell battery is worth it, the keyboard is well laid-out and decently large, and I went with the 32 Gig SSD so I don't have to worry about bumping it during operation. It's a bit unnerving hitting the power button waiting for the comforting hum of starting up, as the whole system is passively cooled and makes zero noise.
My main gripe is that it's near impossible to click and drag on the small touchpad with the integrated button.
Wireless mouse helps more.
I have, however given it to my 3 year old to play with. It's better that she has a real computer instead of a play computer, perhaps she'll have a sense of ownership of something fully working (maybe future career as programmer father thinks :). I liked real tools when I was a kid. She likes to type letters on it, listen to music, videos and play with the interface.
My usual app mix: firefox with 3-10 tabs and 1 or 2 windows cygwin x server with 0-2 remote x apps 2-5 ssh terminals (local urxvt clients) notepad++ with 1-4 tabs open openoffice writer and calc
Throughout the day I sometimes run: a native windows web server, a hosted virtual linux install, pdfs, torrent clients, rdp clients, cygwin or native java tools, and several oldish video games (diablo2, morrowind, warcraft3, galciv2, angband)
My primary problem is the screen size, many games are unplayable without connecting to a desktop monitor since the max native resolution on the screen is something goofy like 1024x600. This also means that some web apps have layout issues - they can usually be worked around with some combination of browser and plugin configuration.
The dual core 1.6ghz processor is surprisingly capable - opening spreadsheets and pdfs sometimes open in 2.5 seconds rather than 2 seconds, but I somehow manage to get by :D