Ask HN: Is 24 too late to start life?
I feel like i have failed in life.I have dropped out of college,have no job,no money,no friends except one guy, and 4 months back i had a nasty breakup with my girlfriend of 8 years.Now i am on the verge of being thrown out of my parent's home.I have absolutely zero skills in anything except a little bit of coding.I turned 24 last month and am feeling that its too late and that all doors are closed to me.I have absolutely no reason to live my life.I feel like a total loser.
However in some corner of mind,i have a feeling that i can rebuild my life if i put in the required efforts.But in my present state of mind,i am not able to believe it.
What you people think i should do in this stage of my life?Is it possible for me to really come out of this and progress in my life?I am really in need of advice.Please guide me.
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[ 3.5 ms ] story [ 73.1 ms ] threadNone of your "failures" are that much of a failure or even unique to you.
Dropped out of college? Millions of Americans never even been there.
No job, no money? That can be fixed.
No friends except one guy? How many real friends do you think most people have? You can always meet some new people anyway.
24 and still living at home? Not too uncommon either. In fact in some places in Europe you could be 30 and still living at home, or even worse, 40 and coming BACK to live at home because of the crisis.
First get a job and some apartment. It doesn't have to be your dream job, but should be easy enough to do so you can hone your coding skills further and try to get a coding job. Even McDonalds are nothing to be shamed for.
Oh, and millions of people rebooted their lives after much worse situations, from wars that left them with no family, friends, money AND country, to accidents that cost them their job and life savings to medical bills, to prison...
The more money you have, the more successful you are.
Do you like coding?
To achieve competency take some classes--free online, community college, whatever--the basic programming classes are all the same. If you have a solid grasp on fundamentals (loops, functions, arrays), in other words if you can look at a program and trace what it's doing, then you can add value in a company (trust me I've worked with people that somehow don't know how to read code).
Actually getting hired requires demonstrating your competency. This can be frustrating without professional experience, but if you are competent you just need to stick with it and you will eventually get your foot in the door. This might require answering some algorithm questions, like sorting. Awareness of SDLC. A portfolio of some sample project. There is a high a demand for anyone that can code. Your first company can suck (mine did) and pay you below market, but professional experience with be incredibly useful for your skills and for your hireability,
It's not easy, but if you enjoy it I think you can do it.
There are also bootcamp schools that will get you up and running quickly, some even that are free while you are there and they only charge you a percentage of your first year of salary after you finish.
Tl;dr: no, it's definitely not late. But doing nothing about it won't help. The secret is to start.
[1] https://www.quora.com/I-am-in-my-late-20s-and-feel-I-have-wa...
Some went into medicine, some worked in shops, but all decided to change their lives at around your age. And it works!
I'm not saying engineering is the only way, I'm saying go talk to people and do interviews and see what college degree will give the skill set and job that you could see yourself doing.
But that's not really what you have to worry about right now. What's most clear to me looking at your post is that your language indicates a very deep depression, and until that's under some semblance of control or treatment you're likely to continue feeling helpless in your life. I hate it when people try to diagnose each other on HN, so I don't want to go further down that line, other than to say you really need to find a doctor or counselor who can help you in a concrete way. The rest of us here are just going to be making recommendations in a vacuum. Only someone you're actually connected with in the physical world can effectively help you get through this. But the takeaway from the rest of us is that a lot of us have been through similar and come out ok and even great.
I hope things get better for you.
Motivation is based on momentum. You're at a standstill now, so you'll have to build up that momentum. Start off with small challenges (sleep, exercise, diet, or whatever) and then take on your big goals once you've got some speed.
You may also find Steve Jobs' speech helpful, as a reminder that even people like him were just as confused at times.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF8uR6Z6KLc
6 years ago I stopped as partner in an company that had worn me out to the point where I only was able to work a few hours every day.
Now 6 years later I have 3 employees and is building a exciting new startup.
Nothing is impossible, it just takes time and effort.
2. Please call your close friend and get his/her advice.
3. Yes, of course, you can emerge from this and progress in life. We all feel unaccomplished in our 20s, but relative to the rest of our careers... we are.
4. The fact that you have some coding skill is vastly more than the average person and with a few side projects to show off, it's enough to get a dev job.
5. Build and ship those 1-2 side projects. Shipping builds confidence. And teaches you the unexpected parts.
1. Work for a gardener/landscaper. I did this for a summer after I had dropped out of college. I worked for the landscaper that took care of my parents house. He was always complaining how hard it was to find good employees and sure enough the only other guy he hired while I was there didn't last more than a month. Fast forward 30 years to today and the landscaper that works on the houses where I live still complains about how hard it is to find good employees.
2. Cannery or commercial fishing work in Alaska. I did this several summers during college (this was back when programming internships, or really any internships, were not as common today). You can work long, hard, hours in peak season but, since you won't be doing anything else, during a good season you can earn a fair amount of cash just by the sheer number of overtime hours worked. If the season is bad then you might not get much work and that is a risk. Besides that, you will certainly meet some interesting people and Alaska is quite beautiful.
You have many avenues these days where you can learn and prove your skills in a variety of fields, not just programming but ever more so if you go that route, but you do have to follow through. When I was your age college was about the only option and I was overall a C student, graduated with a second BS at age 28, but still managed to find jobs and do fairly well.
This is a book written by Scott Adams of Dilbert fame, he has failed at more things than you can imagine. You are unique, divine. So hang in there. Start off with eating right and exercise to get increase your energy. Then follow your curiosity. You will be surprised what you are capable of. Take a course on Coursera, it could be anything. Then build upon that to propel forward.