Ask HN: Developers, how many hours do you feel you are productive in a day?
I had emotional discussion with my boss and I couldn't convince him that 40h in a week and 8h in a day is not always the most productive approach. So please share your feedback and based on that I'm going back to my boss - https://guaana.com/quiz/how-many-hours-do-you-feel-you-are-productive-in-a-day
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[ 3.3 ms ] story [ 65.0 ms ] threadMy daily average is around 6 hours & I accomplish a lot in this time.
Finding a good workflow for what you do is the hard part. A good workflow will include timeboxed sessions between 50-90 minutes with regular breaks after each session to keep your mind fresh and focused. A lunch session away from the PC, take a walk. And a firm commitment to sticking to a true 8h work day, the real mental strain happens when one tries to exceed this daily limit.
And most important factor required to only working an 8h day, is to keep the messaging and social media use to outside work hours. These nasty distractions will destroy productivity and focus likely causing you to "work" and +8h day. All the chatting and social media can wait until you are home, life will carry on. Every distraction you give into will cause you to take 20 minutes to rebuild focus.
I have talkative people behind me, CTO to my left (on the phone a fair bit), sysadmins to my right (frequently desk-meeting with people), and a row of project managers over the minimal partition. Trust me when I say that there are far bigger problems for some people's focus than messaging and social media.
It seems like a lot of money, but if it triples your productivity while in the office (and I'd recommend measuring it with something like RescueTime - if the headset doesn't help your productivity significantly, you can always return it), it's worth it.
For me personally being 44 I am only able to hit a good flow once or twice a day for 2-3 hours each time.
When I am in flow I am faster and more creative than when I am not, so more hours would not add significantly to my productivity.
I'm a highly motivated independent developer and writer, and I've been studying my own work habits to try to become more productive. I use toggl — https://www.toggl.com/ — to track my time throughout the day. I'd work 12 hours a day if I could, but I can't. I run out of gas after 2 hours, 3 hours — and sometimes 8 hours. My limit on tedious, fussy, boring tasks is about 2 hours, after which I'm not much good for anything. My limit when I'm writing a book is 3 to 4 hours. If I'm building something out of code or working in Photoshop, sometimes I get addicted, and then I can go 8 hours. Addiction seems to be the only thing that gets me close to being as productive as I'd like to be. Sadly, I can't choose to focus only on the types of tasks that I'm addicted to.
My sense is that most people — probably including your boss — have never measured how much cognitive work they themselves can do before their brain is fried. I'm talking about real work, not meetings. Meetings use almost no brain glucose at all, so are a way to pad "working" hours without increasing fatigue substantially. I'm convinced this is why meetings are so popular in corporate America.
As long as no one is measuring, it's easy for everyone to kid themselves that they're good for 8 hours and that everyone else should be, no matter how unrealistic that may be.
When I get this fried brain feeling, I've found that eating something sugar-rich, like a piece of chocolate, can attenuate this feeling- not completely, but enough to get me out of the paralysis and started, at least. I don't know how much is placebo, but hey, it works, so I'm not complaining, and there seems to be at least some studies supporting the existence of similar effects.
Thank you for that comment, I thought this was just me....definitely makes me feel a little better
In my experience with teams actively and accurately tracking time, the average is about 2.5 hours for most development work. It can spike up, but the spikes are typically not sustainable for more than a few days. Even then, the higher number days are typically spent doing design documentation or other non-coding tasks.
y, most likely you're never going to convince your boss that you're only productive 3 or 4 hours per day . . . if anything you'll be bringing scrutiny on what you accomplish daily and possibly lower reviews/raises/advancement.
Very few companies are open to anything less than 40 hours per week or even 4 day work weeks.
I would put your efforts in to finding a company/boss that does or work on starting your own thing in your extra time.
Good luck in 2016, fight the good fights.
Two years ago I experienced a burnout for the first time, for a 23-year old freelancer, I knew nothing about burnouts and thought I was severely depressed. My motivation level was 0.
So if your job is fun then you may find 8hrs a day not even enough, but it's not your fault, it's your employers.
Then Spidey sense tingled...
Looked at your profile, then followed your last submission to product hunt and found out that you are the Founder CTO at guaana.com. Co-incidence?
Next time please do put a disclaimer and definitely do not try to "Growth Hack" HN.