Ask HN: What should we fund at YC Research?

316 points by sama ↗ HN
So far we've supported OpenAI and we will soon start the basic income project. We have a few ideas about what to do next, but we'd love to hear from the community about what we should be considering. Thanks!

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The projects being funded by YC (esp basic income) are substantially different and difficult to scale than those of traditional startups, YC or otherwise.

In the interest of reducing noise, are moonshots what you are looking for, or is it anything-goes?

Anything goes.
How about carbon sequestration tech? Seems like the world is starting to move towards renewable energy generation, but that alone won't prevent the adverse effects of CO2 levels rising.

A rigorous survey of what the current possible carbon sequestration tech and methods would be really helpful. Another organization might already have this survey done, but I haven't seen anything online (in my admittedly trivial search efforts).

That's a great list, but I'd love to see a table of carbon sequestration tech, and how much it costs per ton of CO2 sequestered.
Coal bed CO2 sequestration can be profitable, depending on the price of natural gas.
There is a lot of information out there on this topic in both the scientific and patent literature (search on google scholar).

On this topic it would be great if someone could take my idea for solving GHG emissions via some simple financial engineering and flesh out the concept [1]. Glory awaits :)

1. https://www.tillett.info/2015/12/13/preventing-global-climat...

Gun control. I'm actually largely against gun control, but the issue is we have almost no good research on what factors we can implement to curb violence in our country. What causes people to want to say, do a mass shooting? How do people acquire the guns they use in crimes? (Are new background check laws actually solving a problem, or should we be focused on preventing people from stealing others' guns?) Rather than scattershot regulations to impede gun owners, how can we scientifically target laws to reduce crime?

The CDC is forbidden from conducting research on this, allegedly, so it seems like a ripe opportunity for a private option.

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Related to the basic income project -- questions about the societal impact of technology that the technology or business sector might be hesitant to investigate themselves.

For example, how do social networks, targeted advertising, etc. impact social dynamics and sense of self? Are these impacts positive or negative, and could technology improve them?

On a broader scale, how can we measure and understand happiness/quality of life? It is difficult to improve on factors that cannot be measured -- if the goal of technology is to improve quality of life (which I believe it is), then we need a way of measuring that holistically.
If everything goes, please research a viable way to open borders globally. Not only is there tremendous economic potential energy there, but national borders are sadly one of the few openly discriminating policies out there, a major source of inequality and injustice. I would love to see progress towards that end.
The endurance of borders and the nation states they seal is an issue of cultural and political inertia, much more than an issue of finding the optimal economic policy to allow them to open up.

Frankly, and somewhat sadly I might add, I think even if you somehow proved - proved - to a nation's voting population that they would be better off economically (in aggregate) by opening their borders, the perceived cultural and political effects of such a policy would prevent it from ever passing into law through any democratic process. Culture and politics are intertwined in a feedback loop, and it will take many more generations to have grown up in the globalised, internet and cheap-air-travel connected world, where almost every person interacts with, makes friends with, works and does business with people all over the world, for this default to finally go away - only when it does can we ever hope for an open borders policy to even be a remote possibility politically.

With that said, I think aiming directly for an open borders policy might be missing the wood for the trees slightly. Might I instead suggest that we pile research resources and efforts into things like better remote working technology, practices and protocol that might eliminate many of the problems (certainly not all - and mostly economic - but many) that an open border policy should aim to solve in the first place?

In my view the world would be a much better place if we did simply have an open-borders policy throughout much of it, but we can get a very long way towards that goal by allowing people to work from anywhere, for anyone, in a completely effective manner. Not only will this actually solve some of the problems that you talk about a lot more quickly and easily, it should have the effect of flattening out the global distribution of wealth somewhat, such that open borders actually do become more palatable politically, simply because the figurative pressure on the borders of the wealthiest nations would be reduced significantly.

In other words, open borders is not something that can ever happen all at once as a result of a policy change. No matter how much research we do into those policies, they just won't succeed politically as a step change. Rather, it's a positive feedback loop of gradual cultural and political change that has to start somewhere. In many ways of course it's already begun, because of the internet, and I believe the next stage to chase is better, really effective, remote working. I think that's where research effort towards the solving the problems you talk about would be most effectively invested.

Global open borders would create chaos. Imagine if homes didn't have fences or doors and anyone can just walk in & out of your home.
How can HN promote capitalism on one hand, and open borders on the other?

Open borders is the classic pre-cursor to a worldwide Tragedy of the Commons. Currently, we have problems keeping public parks clean. Imagine if all of the earth was a shared commons, and no group of people could restrict access to any plot of land. It would be chaos. I can think of no better way to destroy the world than open borders.

Look into tragedy of the commons, and see why this idea will never be feasible due to human nature.

Perhaps you can elaborate in how you see open borders as a case for tragedy of the commons? I do not mean that all plots of lands can be accessed by any individual, but more like any individual can access any jurisdiction of any country. A situation more akin to the EU, but in a global scale.
How about;

1)Can racial balance in business, education, military be achieved without policies that promote Affirmative Action?

2)Placement by age vs. placement by academic ability

3)Are children smarter (or more socialized) because of the Internet?

4)How has United States censorship changed over the decades?

5)How did gunpowder change warfare?

6)What is “normal,” and to what extent is psychology reliant on culture to define this?

> Can racial balance in business, education, military be achieved without policies that promote Affirmative Action?

No, because Affirmative Action is simply a term of art (originating in a set of executive orders mandating such action) positive action taken with the aim of achieving such balance. If you take active steps targeting that balance you are by definition engaging in affirmative action.

Education seems like a big one. I know there are lots of big places putting in lots of money (eg Gates Foundation), but it's such a critically important part of every human beings -- well being. And I think there is this deep sense that it isn't working as well it could/should.
Enabling technologies for improving quality of life and economic opportunity in the developing world, in a way that doesn't require large capital outflow or aid-based investing. EG, low cost renewable power generation, labor reducing tools for agriculture, water purification and management, sewage handling, computing, local manufacturing, etc.
In line with this, $1-10/day basic income in the developing world would be a much cheaper and potentially more impactful way of testing the concept compared to the ~$30/day minimum for meaningful impact in the US.
Linux reverse engineering efforts (i.e. Open source drivers to replace closed source drivers). We use Linux all the time, how about supporting its future?
Linux is really important, but it's the best-funded FOSS project already. No other project gets a comparable amount of time by comparably skilled developers.

An open source driver for any particular piece of hardware is only useful for that exact piece of hardware, and maybe a few generations after it. But it's usefulness dies with the usage of the hardware. Contrast with basic research, which stays around forever and can be meaningfully built on for much longer.

Research is more about underlying concepts than about actually building concrete implementations (be they software or whatnot) (though that may be part of the research process - but only as the means to an end).

I'd be interested in empowering people from third-world countries with little access to opportunity. Having started, 7 years ago, basically from nothing (a $150 laptop). I've grown to a 6 figures (usd) fortune today. That wouldn't be possible without the internet.

There are many areas that third-world citizen can tap into and work remotely: Programming, Community Management, Writing, Design, Translation...

Most of third-world workers do cheap work (less than $10/hour), with unfavourable terms and unstable revenue. This kill the potential for growth and savings.

I think the challenge can be summarized to the following point:

- Helping them get opportunities to start.

- Embracing a growth and continued learning mindset.

- Helping them grow their skills.

- Helping them open doors for more opportunities.

- Helping them setup simple and safe structures to save, invest and grow their capital.

First of all, congrats! Could you talk a little more about your story of going from $150 laptop to six figures? Also do you live in a third world country? I'm curious about your perspective. Thx.
Nutrition. A lot of this might just be meta-research, but I feel like we still don't really understand what an optimal diet looks like, and if optimal diet might differ from person to person. We learn more every day about how big of a factor it is in disease processes, especially the two biggest ones in the US - heart disease and cancer.

I think preventive care in general is a great area to dive into, and this seems like a good place to start.

Not only that, it's hard to think of an area with quite so much "common sense" and "bro science", but also an area that should be so easy to research. Take people away on a residential and you can control exactly what they eat, their exercise etc. One of the nice things is that it'd be hard for anyone to patent findings either (I imagine).

If I ever have enough money to dabble in my own research, it'll be there. How great would it be to be able to distribute nutritional advice to the world that was actually true, rather than whatever fad diets are being dreamt up or common-sense "wisdom" is being passed down.

Agree on this. Especially research on Soylent like nutrition products for third world countries. Or the cheapest way to build muscle. Or a Crossfit alternative that's free and does not need equipment.
CrossFit is already free - they've been posting the WOD on their blog for free since forever. You could just take their body weight exercises and pick one randomly every day and you'd be doing CrossFit.
hence the research. Yes - I have been following people like Layne Norton, Lyle Macdonald, etc. for years. And Crossfit has a huge number of critics for its program. It would be see results of research on a safer, better program/diet.
But even people who read research diligently (like Lyle) are only as informed as the research is accurate. Look back to what Lyle was writing 16 years ago (strict caloric arithmetic, the discovery of leptin will make dietary obsessions obsolete, microbiome doesn't matter, etc.)
agreed - which is why I think YC should spend on fitness/nutrition research.

I personally think this has the potential to be a moonshot - if an unbiased entity (with no ties to entrenched interests) would spend money on research.

How about 'Is the startup ecosystem as valuable as people within it believe it to be?'
Flat tax (versus the globally-preferred progressive/graduated tax) as a way to stimulate economic growth
- Antibiotic alternatives (we're going to need them fast)

- As another poster mentioned, how do we suck the carbon from 150 years of burning fossil fuels out of our atmosphere?

- Cognitive enhancement

- Re-wilding - rebuilding devastated ecosystems in the Anthropocene with engineered biodiversity

I can't imagine that approaching ecology from a perspective of re-wilding will be of much benefit. The wild is happy to take over a space that isn't kept civilized (for instance, the exclusion zone around Chernobyl), so you quickly end up with a situation where you want to be able to predict the consequences of any actions you take against the existing ecology, which is anyway how we are managing 'wild' spaces.
Unfortunately many of the effects of humans are long-lasting. The elimination of buffalo, for instance, or the loss of most wolf populations in North America which lead to the explosion of deer, IIRC. I am quite interested in the possibilities of selective breeding to replace extinct species, and the major die-off currently happening could have negative effects we have not yet even begun to see.
The best alternative to antibiotics is more antibiotics - a flood of more antibiotics, more than we could ever use up. The best way to do that is support automation and other efficiency gains and individual projects in mining the bacterial world for novel antibacterial weaponry. That used to be impractical, but now that there is, as of 2015, a way to culture the 99% of bacteria that couldn't be cultured before, it is now very practical to look for everything we might need in biomedicine in the bacterial world. See:

https://edge.org/response-detail/26701

http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/41850/...

I should have said "alternative antibiotics"
"how do we suck the carbon from 150 years of burning fossil fuels out of our atmosphere?" Stop destroying forests, stop burning fuels, start growing more plants. The real question is, how to accomplish these.
Mental health - specifically in a future where we may be increasingly more connected virtually but increasingly less connected physically. In one or two decades when the average urbanite is serviced by on-demand autonomous vehicles and drones, works from home (or not at all), consumes news/media in a personalized subreddit-like echo chamber interspersed with cleverly integrated native advertising, and spends 10+ hours/week in VR, what are the implications for their mental health? As physical community and socialization are often pointed to as the greatest predictors of happiness, how do we best translate that deep seated human need into the future? As medical science continues to improve treatments for cancer, worn out joints, failing organs, and other physical ailments, I think the mind will eventually emerge as ''the final frontier'' of health care and well being.
That.

We still don't know what long-term exposure to highly condensed, highly customized information does to our brains and social systems as a whole.

For example, there are signs that social network users are actually unhappy - in other words - are experiencing all kinds of mental health issues.

It is well known that programmers experience "burn outs", which, from personal experience, is a terrible and debilitating state sometimes even leading to suicide.

There is addiction to gaming, chat, porn, social networks.

Mobile phones have exposed everyone to the infinite stream of information/communication and I think this will lead to many more mental health issues.

I think we are not yet prepared for the kind of impact that current and future tech will have on our minds, so this would be a worthy field to invest in now.

This is something I'm trying to address with my startup, Krewe: https://www.gokrewe.com/about. I want to make it easy for people to quickly form strong, lasting friendships and relationships and become connected with their local community. It gives people access to a small social group in their neighborhood and gradually allows them to expand that group. Since everyone lives so close to each other, it makes it possible to get together often, even everyday if they want, without having to deal with extensive planning or traffic.

If YC or anyone else wants to fund me, I'd be fine with that.

Came here to say the same. Last night I was hanging out with my 3-year-old nephew and wondering how different his life will be, especially with all the advancements like VR coming our way. I feel lucky to be old enough to remember what life was like before the internet.

The idea of people spending 10+ hours in VR per week scares me, but it's probably pretty similar to video game and smartphone usage. Maybe that would be a good place to start research.

A little over a month ago I started working on forming new habits, severely limiting use of network tools. I now only check email/sms/etc twice per day. At 6pm I put all technology away. I'm asleep by 9:30pm, awake at 5:30am, and try not to look at any network tools again until 10am. I'm considerably happier and more productive now. It's a tough habit to maintain and I'm pretty sure a few of my friends think I'm nuts.

A couple good, related reads: http://www.amazon.com/Deep-Work-Focused-Success-Distracted/d... http://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/the-useless-agony...

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Better transportation infrastructure to move stuff across the the globe. We currently use ships, planes, and trucks which aren't sustainable from a fuel perspective or good for greenhouse emissions.
Climate Change. We need to do more than reduce tomorrow's emissions to have a meaningful impact on the damage we've already done
Clean water and/or sewage. Almost a billion people don't have access to either, because the infrastructure doesn't exist for municipal sewage or water treatment. Huge numbers of people die from preventable diseases, simply because their water is fouled.

Until cellphones, most of the world didn't have reliable communications, because nobody could build the necessary infrastructure. Wireless changed that. We need the equivalent breakthrough for water treatment.

Dean Kamen is doing interesting stuff in this area (a stirling-engine based system for water distillation [1]), but his approach is still limited by costs and distribution.

Solving this problem would literally change the world, and unlike many of the suggestions here, it's an area where there's hope that a small research team could make a dent (for example, Kamen wanted to raise $1M for Slingshot.)

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slingshot_(water_vapor_distill...

Aubrey de Grey's SENS approach to creating and maintaining a state of negligible senescence in humans.

Every advanced society faces an aging population. This population will put massive strains on healthcare expenses. It could also strain the economy as the elder population collects public sector pensions and slowly depletes its savings (i.e. retirement funds). The latter effect could be mitigated by automation.

Paradoxically our success in treating diseases that kill us now will merely make us victims of potentially more terrible diseases in the future. Look at the experiences of centenarians in the last decade:

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db233.htm

Alzheimer's will become increasingly common as will cognitive decline in general. What happens to all those people who don't die of cancer or heart disease? They will often succumb to slower acting chronic diseases involving long-term states of suffering and mental anguish.

The way out of this mess is to treat aging itself, not just the diseases that currently kill us. SENS targets the underlying mechanisms of aging.

Research into negligible senescence can also lay the foundation for potentially profitable therapeutics. Unlike the disease-centric model the total addressable market is nearly everyone.

I'm not sure it makes sense to put effort into these kinds of programs. As an example, a specific approach SENS wants to develop is lengthening telomeres in your body. But scientists are not even sure that shortening telomeres contribute significantly to aging-related diseases.

Derek Lowe (who knows drug development better than any of us) made a very interesting comment recently on the cancer research "moonshot" funding presented in the State of the Union speech:

""" Trying to cure cancer in this way would be like trying to go to the moon without really knowing how rocket engines actually work, without being quite sure if Newton’s laws of motion would hold up, and with some real uncertainty in the position of the moon. """

The disparity between what we know today, and what we would have to know to "cure" cancer, is quite unfathomable to us computer hackers.

Perhaps ironically, lengthening telomeres such as via telomerase therapies is one of the things that a lot of other researchers are hot on and is not actually on the SENS agenda.

Since those other researchers are definitely advocating progress towards the use of telomerase therapies in humans, and it is inarguably the case that telomerase gene therapy extends life modestly in mice, probably by stimulating stem cell activity, your point still seems incoherent. See for example this position piece by Maria Blasco: http://dx.doi.org/10.12688/f1000research.7020.1

From my position telomere length looks a lot a measure of aging rather than a cause, and telomerase therapies are something I'd consider risky at this point in humans - our telomere dynamics and telomerase setup is very different from that of mice, and I don't think it is safe to assume that slowing of aging and induced regeneration in mice without cancer risk is necessarily going to happen in humans. You don't know until you try, of course, and there is a contingent that will be trying. Note that at least one human has already disagreed with that assessment and had telomerase gene therapy, the CEO of BioViva.

From the SENS perspective, telomere length is something that will take care of itself if you create rejuvenation by repairing the causes of aging. Average telomere length in tissues is a product of stem cell activity and cell turnover rate, and aging diminishes the former, and that is a reaction to rising levels of damage. Get rid of the damage and stem cells should get back to work because the signaling environment will revert back to how it is in youth.

<From my position telomere length looks a lot a measure of aging rather than a cause>

Sure, so they need to just keep in mind that the goal is not to lengthen (or protect) telomeres for their own sake. But telomeres could at least help serve as a metric or proxy for therapies that do slow or arrest aging overall.

Meanwhile, Metformin is crazy cheap.

Weighted carry protocols to keep elderly physically functional.
Land Value Tax.

I think this is the next big thing after basic income (especially when the question of how to pay for basic income comes up).

The land value tax is universally seen by economists as the most fair tax, yet for whatever reason we continue to ignore it in favor of income, sales, and property taxes - all of which distort markets (unlike the land value tax).

The lack of research and real life case studies on this topic is a huge obstacle to this entering the mainstream.