Yeah, there doesn't seem to be much substance in this. For example,
> The last thing I’ll say is about Tony, since he’s the focus of most of these articles. I was in maybe 10 meetings with him total in 18 months. So I would never characterize my time with him as “intimate.” However, I did sit within 15 feet of him and next to his meeting room for a year.
What? This doesn't entitle you to have a significant opinion about what's going on right now.
Seems like someone just trying to milk some tangential experiences to get attention while the media is looking this way.
TL;DR Nest is great, Tony Fadell is great, every Nest product is great, everything you've read or heard about any of the above in the last 18 months is wrong.
This reminds me of the NYTimes Amazon story a few months ago. There were several people who wrote that their experiences were nothing like what the story portrayed. It was possible for both sides to be correct.
It takes a lot of data points to draw a reasonable conclusion. Even then, it won't apply to everyone in a company.
This article is a great example of why a company describing itself as a family should be a red flag. It usually means they're trying to exploit vulnerabilities in human social instincts in the same way that cults do; abuse is easiest and most effective when the targets are socialised to think of it as the norm to the extent that they start making excuses for it.
> The first thing to know about Nest’s culture is that it’s a family. They expect loyalty, trust
> Building and shipping hardware products requires an orchestra, not a band.
> Building a phenomenal, time-tested brand requires extreme discipline, and often, a relatively ...
> The dedication to the brand is one of those things that as an employee can seem onerous and taxing ...
> To me, doing great work is a habit, not an occasional outcome
This article is a series of sound bytes with zero information on what it's actually like to work at nest. Sort of like this person's job at nest was more like a club where he was playing pool or something. Not sure what this guy did, but clearly it can't have had many stressful deliverables.
According to his twitter page this person is a software engineer who moved to Product Management.
I bet that a place like Apple and Nest is like that : nice and easy on project managers, very hard on engineers. A company like Google, by contrast, From their products, I expect that mostly the company sides with the engineers, not the PMs.
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[ 2.5 ms ] story [ 48.9 ms ] thread> The last thing I’ll say is about Tony, since he’s the focus of most of these articles. I was in maybe 10 meetings with him total in 18 months. So I would never characterize my time with him as “intimate.” However, I did sit within 15 feet of him and next to his meeting room for a year.
What? This doesn't entitle you to have a significant opinion about what's going on right now.
Seems like someone just trying to milk some tangential experiences to get attention while the media is looking this way.
It takes a lot of data points to draw a reasonable conclusion. Even then, it won't apply to everyone in a company.
> Building and shipping hardware products requires an orchestra, not a band.
> Building a phenomenal, time-tested brand requires extreme discipline, and often, a relatively ...
> The dedication to the brand is one of those things that as an employee can seem onerous and taxing ...
> To me, doing great work is a habit, not an occasional outcome
This article is a series of sound bytes with zero information on what it's actually like to work at nest. Sort of like this person's job at nest was more like a club where he was playing pool or something. Not sure what this guy did, but clearly it can't have had many stressful deliverables.
According to his twitter page this person is a software engineer who moved to Product Management.
I bet that a place like Apple and Nest is like that : nice and easy on project managers, very hard on engineers. A company like Google, by contrast, From their products, I expect that mostly the company sides with the engineers, not the PMs.