One Person Profitable (In defense of single founders) (jamtoday.org)
I'm compiling a list of founders who have achieved OPP. There are the obvious ones like Markus Frind and Gabe Rivera, but I'm sure there are many HN readers who have also successfully bootstrapped as single founders.
Anyone know of a verified one person profitable startup? Have any YC founders accomplished it?
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[ 3.3 ms ] story [ 120 ms ] threadAnyone know of a verified one person profitable startup? Have any YC founders accomplished it?
http://www.singlefounder.com/2006/10/23/thesinglefoundermyth...
I'd say that this has a lot to do with the availability of cloud computing, app stores, and powerful third-party APIs. There are probably thousands of profitable single founders out there.
Good ref. If you see articles like this, add them to the stack ~ http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1144353
I believe that if I didn't have all the equity, it would have died from one of my many early mistakes. There is no way I'd have expected anyone else to pour money into a hole for three years.
Also, even though I kept the equity, I had a lot of help. There is no way I'd have been able to do this by myself.
Of course, I'm the first to say that sometimes you should give up, but I'm pretty happy with how prgmr.com turned out. It probably hasn't yet paid out what I put in, but it's getting there, (and according to offers, it's worth about what I've put in now)
I support around 40,000 users and half a million a year in revenue from my web apps and ecommerce sites. You could say I've been OPP since I was 15, when I was making enough from websites I'd built to pay hosting costs, cable modem service, and buy my own computers. I'm 25 now, have never been cash flow negative in my life, no debt. I have no cofounder or employees, I own 100% of my LLC.
http://www.dangrossman.info/folio/
My goal is simply to build useful services for as many people as I can reach. I don't think I'm alone. Anyone who has the right mix of technical, design and business skills can run the whole shop for themselves if they prefer that to consulting.
The biggest problem I've had is that there are too many hats for one person to wear. Yes you can do it, it's damned painful and sometimes there isn't anyone who can help you avoid bad decisions as employees don't always want to challenge you.
FWIW I was close to taking on a partner before and it would've gone very bad, which as a learning experience has prepared me for the partner I'm looking at taking on now.
if you can do it alone, do it. I haven't done that in either of the two companies I've started, but I like the camaraderie. Not everyone needs a partner.
[1]: http://www.paulgraham.com/startupmistakes.html
Basically, if a company's revenues are greater than its spending, it is profitable. It doesn't matter if the company hasn't eliminated debt or hasn't recouped the initial investment yet: being profitable means that it's being successful at getting at either of those goals.
Giving away a few percentage points for enough cash to keep the lights on is fine. But I've seen arrangements where founders didn't end up owning their companies, even after an ostensible "seed stage" round.
The thing is that there are a limited number of people to pick from based on these criteria. Out of these you have to find someone that's smart, gets things done and has the stamina to do a startup. For most people this amounts to a grand total of zero people.
I've done startups where I slacked on the co-founder criteria, thinking "Oh he's not the smartest guy I know, but he's a hard worker" or "he knows everything there is to know about this domain, but he's not 100% motivated" and I've been disappointed every time.
If you don't have a perfect match I'd recommend going it alone.
I think finding smart, capable people is the easiest thing to do. Harder than that is finding people who want to do a startup (as many of my peers, now with 10 years experience, get comfortable paychecks). Harder than THAT is finding people who want to try to do a startup that's not funded. Harder than THAT, is finding all of the aforementioned stuff and someone who's has the burning desire to work in the space/industry that you think could use a new solution.
The thing I've realized is that when it's your idea, you see the potential of what could be. When you approach others, they only see what can go wrong with your idea. And, admittedly, you're trying to get them to buy into a vision that you've thought about endlessly while they've only had the pitch you gave them over lunch.
It's tough. Paul Graham's article about entrepreneurs as animals is right on.
http://paulgraham.com/boss.html
Pierre Omidyar with Ebay.
Gabor Cselle with reMail.
Mark Zuckerberg with Facebook (cash flow positive, at least).
Max Levchin with Slide.com.
And a few others I can't really talk about (they like their low profile).
Personally, as a single founder, I wish I had some cofounders. Next time I probably won't go it alone.
Did you start a company primarily because you didn't want to work for anyone else and really didn't care to work with anyone else?
Or did you start a company because you wanted to work on an idea that would change the landscape of the industry you're entering? Did you do it because you wanted to build something 10s of thousands (if not 100s or millions) of people would use? Did you do it to grow a real company that would have real impact and be worth a decent amount of money?
I think that if you want to do the latter, 9 times out of 10, you need to have more than 1 person. I'd rather be Mark Zuckerberg pre-profitability than random person doing random thing but profitable. That's just me.
If you want to be single-person profitable, you can always just do your own consultancy.
Product companies often allow you to invest capital at a much higher rate of return. (I get several hundred percent return on my hardware purchases)
Product companies also allow you to avoid more of the work you don't like, and to work more on your own schedule. (Personally, I think it's quite a chore to wake up at the same time every day; as a product company, nobody cares.)
I think you could identify a couple of things here: Google (and the App Store and Twitter and Facebook and all the things you cool people use) is a huge force multiplier for distribution. OSS is a force multiplier for software development. Modern web frameworks are a force multiplier for software development. The whole lean startup ball-o-wax is a force multiplier for customer development. Cheap outsourcers are a force multiplier for any sort of easily described, easily checkable, repetitive work. The astounding variety -- an ecosystem of ecosystems -- of companies/APIs which you can just throw trivial time/money at and hook an enterprise-scale solution into your business is a force multiplier for, well, pretty much anything you can think of. ("Oh effity I have no accounts receivable department full of people whose only job it is to chase down folks who owe me money, get their money, and then make sure it gets to my accounts. Wait, you mean Paypal makes that irrelevant? For like a buck a transaction? And it can be integrated into a website in like an hour? Whoa!")
Heck, some of these are less multipliers and more exponentiators.
The question is -- which if any of the above are not available for you if you have one person but might be available if you have two? And the answer, I think, is none of them.
The barriers are getting further lowered all the time, too, and the things force multipliers are getting better. A great example of this -- and I swear, it will create several multi-million dollar businesses this year -- is Twilio. You can now run a telephony company from your freaking kitchen. Holy "#$&"#$"#$"# we are living in the future.
It's a great time to be single. (Not that it's a bad time to have co-founders -- I wish y'all the best, too. Make awesome stuff and have lots of success doing it.)
It seems sort of pointless to spend too much time worrying about it though; if you don't have anyone to work with, you have to either choose to go it alone or to not make an attempt. Why dither about something you can't change?
Unfortunately, the need for cofounders is a deeply entrenched belief among investors, so much so that it risks becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy.
It's something that investors most definitely think about. Investing in early stage companies is often a decade long investment. A lot can happen in that decade, and minimizing your risk is important.
Comparing my "single founder" and "one of two" experiences, when there is another party the ability to talk and get feedback makes a huge difference. When you are on your own it is much easier to go down the wrong path because questions didn't get asked earlier on. It is much easier to become demoralised. It is much easier to waste time.
Having someone else around doesn't work as well as having a co-founder. While you can get some feedback, the nature of the conversations changes (at least for me), and there are some things you don't really talk about to others.
But the cycle time is so slow. Feedback with a co-founder happens very quickly, and both parties are deeply involved and working on the venture. This gives a level of detail and understanding that you can't really get from customers and friends. That is not to say that customers and friends should not provide feedback; they should. However, it is different.
This was the point of my last sentence: "While you can get some feedback, the nature of the conversations changes (at least for me), and there are some things you don't really talk about to others." This refers to the kind of feedback you are talking about, and while it has value, it is not the same thing.
>> When you are on your own it is much easier to go down the >> wrong path because questions didn't get asked earlier on. > It has little to do with a number of founders. Two or more can be asking questions, but those can be wrong questions.
You still have two people asking questions. And with a fast feedback loop you can get interesting questions quickly that actually make a difference.
I am not arguing that it is impossible for a single founder company to work, I am arguing that having two skilled and "compatible" founders gives a advantage over one.
>> It is much easier to become demoralised. It is much easier >> to waste time. > Why? I'd argue that more than single founder have even greater opportunity to > waste time arguing if there is some disagreement; waste time trying things thad > you don't think will work but your cofounder convinced you to try, etc.
Not my experience, yours might be different.
When I've had disagreements, the outcome has usually been that everyone has a clearer view and goes in the same direction (or call the whole thing off). Those disagreements are opportunities to get a better outcome for everyone.
There are multiple variables. If your co-founder spends all his time convincing you to do stupid things and you agree with him, then you have other issues.
Some people need some kind of support, or some people can't do programming and sales.
But most of all, not all start-ups are the same... saying "two founders is better than one" is totally subjective to the start-up, surely?
If there's more than one founder, somebody has to be in charge.
Would a painter ever co-paint an oil painting with another painter?