If they did something wrong, why don't say that and try to find a solution for the family, for the kids interest? If they are not alcoholics with known problems in society ... I still thik they are the best parents for them.
Why don't let children's speak with parents about what is "the problem".
After all, I was a kid who did a lot of stupid things ...
Is there anything that say the beat the so "cruel"? Don't judge so fast ...
First of all we are only hearing the parent's side of the story. For all we know there may be other concerns.
These parents broke the law. It is against the law to hit their children no matter the reason. When you move to a foreign country you need to follow the law. You don't expect the service to leave children in the homes of potentially abusive parents while they investigate?
Correctly, but the state must say what accuse you of ...
If I do something wrong, take me (to prison or whatever), not my kids ...
PS: I'm not part of the family, but I support the parents.
Note: Imagine that you are a parent, have a kid and it's at my kindergarten. I didn't finished a psychology school, but I think something is wrong on your family and make a complaint about you.
They first take the kid and after try to see what is the problem, but won't say you exactly ... for the children protection.
Sorry, honestly, it doesn't make sense for "democracy".
> Correctly, but the state must say what accuse you of
They were informed when they where taken to the police statoin to be questioned.
> but won't say you exactly ... for the children protection
That is only regarding answering the media's questions. The parents are informed. The police are not allowed to give such information to the media in order to protect privacy rights of the children (and the accused parents if they wanted to)
> If I do something wrong, take me (to prison or whatever), not my kid
Their focus is to protect the kids and separate them from potential abusers until they have clarified the situation. You can't take the parents out of the home and leave the kids alone? The only choice is to put the children under temporary foster care until they either clear the parents or find some other arrangement. As a general rule they prefer to let the children live with their parents of course, but they have to make sure that it is safe to return.
The baby has been returned, but the older children are still in temporary foster homes. The parents are under investigation and the police will decide if they are going to press charges in a court hearing next month. The system has to take the children's rights seriously, so they can not return until their rights are protected.
BTW: This is not something that is specific to Norway. All Nordic countries have come a long way when it comes to protecting children's rights.
I do not have any connection to this case. I'm just someone who takes the rights of children seriously, even if their parents think they have the right to ignore them.
I'm sure that the parents do not mean them harm, but when the police gets a warning they have to keep the children's rights in mind. Parents who get the media's attention should not get special preferences. The law should be equal to everyone. That is why they follow the same procedure so that everyone is treated equally. If the investigation proves that the parents won't beat the children again, they may be returned.
2. If nothing changes, move the kids to the same foster home and work with the parents to create a better environment to the kids.
No one here is trying to raise damaged kids; the parents seem to just have a view of how to raise their children that infringes on their kids’ rights. If they break the law a second time after being informed that what they’re doing is illegal, then we know it will require more than just informing them. Taking the children away clearly should not be the first step unless we already know they are defying the law.
A crime has been committed. When someone assaults you, you don't create some mediation session. You involve the police, you prosecute. And there's no way you give the victim to the person who did the assault, that's just insane.
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[ 3.5 ms ] story [ 26.0 ms ] threadIf you can't raise a child without hitting him/her, maybe parenting isn't for you.
Why don't let children's speak with parents about what is "the problem".
After all, I was a kid who did a lot of stupid things ...
Is there anything that say the beat the so "cruel"? Don't judge so fast ...
These parents broke the law. It is against the law to hit their children no matter the reason. When you move to a foreign country you need to follow the law. You don't expect the service to leave children in the homes of potentially abusive parents while they investigate?
If I do something wrong, take me (to prison or whatever), not my kids ...
PS: I'm not part of the family, but I support the parents.
Note: Imagine that you are a parent, have a kid and it's at my kindergarten. I didn't finished a psychology school, but I think something is wrong on your family and make a complaint about you.
They first take the kid and after try to see what is the problem, but won't say you exactly ... for the children protection. Sorry, honestly, it doesn't make sense for "democracy".
They were informed when they where taken to the police statoin to be questioned.
> but won't say you exactly ... for the children protection
That is only regarding answering the media's questions. The parents are informed. The police are not allowed to give such information to the media in order to protect privacy rights of the children (and the accused parents if they wanted to)
> If I do something wrong, take me (to prison or whatever), not my kid
Their focus is to protect the kids and separate them from potential abusers until they have clarified the situation. You can't take the parents out of the home and leave the kids alone? The only choice is to put the children under temporary foster care until they either clear the parents or find some other arrangement. As a general rule they prefer to let the children live with their parents of course, but they have to make sure that it is safe to return.
The baby has been returned, but the older children are still in temporary foster homes. The parents are under investigation and the police will decide if they are going to press charges in a court hearing next month. The system has to take the children's rights seriously, so they can not return until their rights are protected.
BTW: This is not something that is specific to Norway. All Nordic countries have come a long way when it comes to protecting children's rights.
I do not have any connection to this case. I'm just someone who takes the rights of children seriously, even if their parents think they have the right to ignore them.
I'm sure that the parents do not mean them harm, but when the police gets a warning they have to keep the children's rights in mind. Parents who get the media's attention should not get special preferences. The law should be equal to everyone. That is why they follow the same procedure so that everyone is treated equally. If the investigation proves that the parents won't beat the children again, they may be returned.
2. If nothing changes, move the kids to the same foster home and work with the parents to create a better environment to the kids.
No one here is trying to raise damaged kids; the parents seem to just have a view of how to raise their children that infringes on their kids’ rights. If they break the law a second time after being informed that what they’re doing is illegal, then we know it will require more than just informing them. Taking the children away clearly should not be the first step unless we already know they are defying the law.