Lol, it's funny when you see how bad computer geniuses websites can be! Just proves that you can't know everything when it comes to programming. (Viewed on my Android Phone)
Minimalist, all the content is linkable, and they both work even on Links or Opera Mini. I'd prefer this over some fancy layout that don't degrade gracefully, e.g. requiring JS to display static content. It's not everyone who have fast internet and fast laptops.
I gave up Lynx in favour of Links2 because problems reading HackerNews. Try navigating to
news.ycombinator.com
without the https:// and Lynx will freeze completely.
With Bellard's page it's surely not just because he "couldn't be bothered with JavaScript" or something, because 4th link boots up Linux in a browser window.
I wonder if there is some law on the inverse relationship between between bells+whistles and relevance of content.
Stallman doesn't maintain his site and hasn't programmed seriously in a while (read that somewhere on the site). Most old hackers made their site in the 90s and haven't bothered updating it.
Same with professors. The most "advanced" website from a CS professor I've had used Bootstrap.
> SCROTUS demanded that Greenpeace, 350.org and the Union of Concerned Scientists hand over privileged legal communications about investigating Exxon's global heating fraud.
Does anyone know WTF "SCROTUS" is? My first guess would be that it has something to do with the Supreme Court of the United States (SCOTUS) and that Stallman disagrees with them over something and so calls them SCROTUS instead of SCOTUS.
However, what that item on his site links to is a story on the Committee on Space, Science and Technology of the House or Representatives and its bogus investigation of several groups. I'm having a hard time finding any even remotely rational way to turn "Committee on Space, Science and Technology" into SCROTUS.
Oh I dunno... "Stallman Does Dallas" made me giggle, and the time he ranted about a baby announcement on the GNU mailing list was (perhaps somewhat unintentionally) hilarious.
The source code is very straightforward too. Commented out sections of the website with dated reminders to uncomment them. I guess he must look at his source code frequently enough that these reminders work?
Very simple but effective mechanical turk I guess?
e.g.
<!-- Enable just after Thanksgiving thru Jan 6 -->
<!--
<center><h3>
It's the Grav-Mass season!<br> <a href="/grav-mass.html">Grav-Mass</a>
is the celebration of physical laws. <br>December 25<br>
Isaac Newton's birthday.<br> ¡Feliz Gravidad!
</h3>
<a href="./grav-mass.png"><img src="./grav-mass-icon.png" alt="A Grav-Mass tree"></a>
</center>
-->
If memory serves me correctly, RMS doesn't actually manage his own website. He has a number of volunteers that help update the website and post political notes. Those notes are likely a message from him to his volunteers, or the volunteers reminding themselves.
That particular bit isn't scripted (I just haven't gotten around to write a script for it) but a bunch of other things are the site are done with perl scripts.
Duh, so what? There's nothing wrong with it. There's a lot wrong with websites that will look all wonky in five years when the js libraries they depend on are obsolete or the css is outdated or whatever.
And it's a pleasant surprise that he uses no tables (that make it so hard for screen readers- not that I use one, but there are many people who do so).
I remember I once sent sent RMS a short message about a small bug on his website. He responded within 4 hours.
> Small typo on line 724 of the source of your homepage...
> I believe you meant "that is NOT an excuse to carry out the promise"
Thanks, I fixed it.
Would you like to join the FSF, perhaps?
It's also worth mentioning, that this was his autoreply :)
I am not on vacation, but I am at the end of a long time delay. I am
located somewhere on Earth, but as far as responding to email is concerned,
I appear to be well outside the solar system.
After your message arrives at gnu.org, I will collect it in my next batch of
incoming mail, some time within the following 24 hours. I will spend much of
the following day reading that batch of mail and will come across your
message at some point. If I write a response immediately, it will go out in
the next outgoing batch--typically around 24 hours after I collected your
message, but occasionally sooner or later than that. Please expect a minimum
delay of between 24 and 48 hours in receiving a response to your mail to me.
If your message is hard to understand or responding takes real work,
the response could take longer.
So please wait 48 hours after sending a message before you resend it,
remind me about it, or ask if I have received it. If it has been less
than 48 hours, the absence of a response from me only means you have not
given me time to answer.
If you are having a conversation with me, please keep in mind that each
message you receive from me is a response to the mail you sent 24 to 48 hours
earlier, and when writing it, I probably had not yet downloaded your later
mail.
I've had several long correspondences with RMS over email. He's surprisingly humble and down to earth for someone with that level of fame. The first time I emailed him and he responded, I was very pleasantly surprised. In general he's very nice. He does take everything incredibly seriously though. And I do mean every single thing that goes through his brain. His website and his email reply kind of hint at that. I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing, it's just very unusual. And I think that's off-putting to a lot of people.
Every sentence you form is a contract, every fantasized aloud common endeavor uttered a promise. The problem is, that he is a contrast to most of us who - for having a family and a live style "sell out".
He is what we could have been if we would have stayed true to the ideals of our youth.
That's what put people off.
My favorite part of this is "write a recipe for how to connect to the WiFi in a Mcdonalds without running its nonfree Javascript't" Always found that interesting about how thorough he is with what he does with his laptop.
Reminds me of that old series of photos of a kid's travels around the world with his Gameboy and in every single shot he's either playing it or holding it. Oh, look, a famous monument!
This website a good example what's wrong with a lot of open source software (and don't get me wrong, I love FOSS, in fact, I make a living out of it). Complete ignorance of form. There's plenty of awesome function and amazing minds behind it, but humans are visual beings and sites like this (completely unscannable) make it really difficult to separate what's important and what's not. The only reason to visit a site like this is if you're given a good blog post with a direct link.
Yes, I know it renders on everything properly, but that doesn't make it right, UX, after all is where most of the technological products fail - because users do not know how to use them properly - or at all. Apple and Tesla understand that.
Yep, it's important for a site to be easy to skim, but beyond that, you'd be surprised at how little people care about or note good design. I mean, you're posting this on Hacker News, which can't even be bothered to set a reasonable text column width.
Your feedback is fair, but does if anything particular to do with FOSS vs software websites in general ? Beyond perhaps that bad UX can kill a business faster than a volunteer project, so bad commercial websites tend to disappear
Are you seriously comparing someone's personal wep page to Apple and Tesla? If that's supposed to be a satire on Silicon Valley's startup culture, I think it's hilarious.
I think his page is really great because it has lots of high-quality content and nothing in the "UI" made it difficult to access it.
Do you have some reason to believe that? My frustrations with Apple hardware began and ended with their single button mouse. Tesla's cars are having their firmware modified without their riders fully understanding the implications of the modifications, resulting in entirely preventable, physical accidents.
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Minimalist, all the content is linkable, and they both work even on Links or Opera Mini. I'd prefer this over some fancy layout that don't degrade gracefully, e.g. requiring JS to display static content. It's not everyone who have fast internet and fast laptops.
DJBs site: http://cr.yp.to/djb.html
Fabrice Bellards site: http://www.bellard.org/
Donald Knuths site: http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~uno/
I wonder if there is some law on the inverse relationship between between bells+whistles and relevance of content.
Same with professors. The most "advanced" website from a CS professor I've had used Bootstrap.
At least it works fine and is readable.
Does anyone know WTF "SCROTUS" is? My first guess would be that it has something to do with the Supreme Court of the United States (SCOTUS) and that Stallman disagrees with them over something and so calls them SCROTUS instead of SCOTUS.
However, what that item on his site links to is a story on the Committee on Space, Science and Technology of the House or Representatives and its bogus investigation of several groups. I'm having a hard time finding any even remotely rational way to turn "Committee on Space, Science and Technology" into SCROTUS.
https://stallman.org/articles/texas.html http://www.art.net/~hopkins/Don/text/rms-vs-doctor.html
Very simple but effective mechanical turk I guess?
e.g.
https://www.stallman.org/stallman-computing.html
And it's a pleasant surprise that he uses no tables (that make it so hard for screen readers- not that I use one, but there are many people who do so).
https://www.stallman.org/photos/rms-working/index.html
Yes, I know it renders on everything properly, but that doesn't make it right, UX, after all is where most of the technological products fail - because users do not know how to use them properly - or at all. Apple and Tesla understand that.
Yep, it's important for a site to be easy to skim, but beyond that, you'd be surprised at how little people care about or note good design. I mean, you're posting this on Hacker News, which can't even be bothered to set a reasonable text column width.
I think his page is really great because it has lots of high-quality content and nothing in the "UI" made it difficult to access it.
Do you have some reason to believe that? My frustrations with Apple hardware began and ended with their single button mouse. Tesla's cars are having their firmware modified without their riders fully understanding the implications of the modifications, resulting in entirely preventable, physical accidents.
https://stallman.org/articles/texas.html