Ask HN: How do you create productive habits?

253 points by lilcarlyung ↗ HN
One of the things I do to deal with procrastination, and that I've had the most success with, is to develop what I consider to be productive habits. Basically, it just means me using a daily todo with tasks that I consider to be productive. I've tried out apps such as Streaks (http://streaksapp.com/) and I'm currently using Daisy (http://daisyapp.xyz/) to aid me with this.

Although I am successful with this, I'm always on the lookout for more efficient (and perhaps more fun) ways of doing this. So I'm curious to hear what you people do to create productive habits? Any apps or other methods you suggest for habit creation?

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Read The Power of Habit by Charles Duhigg. He has some good suggestions. One of the best ideas in there is that certain small habit changes create behavioral cascades. For people trying to lose weight, just writing down what they eat at each meal has a huge effect. When you make up in the morning, making your bed increases the likelihood that you'll do other things that require discipline. The idea is to get many small wins, because they accumulate and give you momentum to tackle harder and harder tasks. When you draw up your goals, the trick is to state the goal, imagine the obstacle that might prevent you from achieving it, and then figure out what you'll do in that scenario. That's the thinking behind the WOOP app: http://www.woopmylife.org/ which I'm not affiliated with, fwiw. Finally, in your HN profile set "noprocrast" to yes. ;)
The best takeaway from that book is the "cycle" of habit: cue -> routine -> reward. The message of the book is that if you have a bad habit, e.g. smoking, there is a "cue" that causes you to engage in the "routine" of smoking, for the "reward" of nicotine. Unfortunately, these cycles are hard wired into our brain, so once they're fully established, we can't change them. The author offers the solution: keep the "cue" and the "reward," but change the "routine." The first step is recognizing the cue. Once you know what it is, you can replace the "routine" with something more benign, that also leads to a reward.

So for procrastination, maybe the "cue" is your code compiling, and the "routine" is typing "n -> down -> enter" into your address bar to get to hacker news, and the reward is some sort of stimulus. You can fix this habit by recognizing the "cue" of code compiling, and swapping it out for a new routine, like 30 pushups, to get a stimulus reward of energy.

totally agree! digging in a little more, he talked about the cycle of:

cue -> craving -> action -> reward

and the whole question is, how do you find rewards that instill craving which will lead you to an action that changes your lifestyle?

Charles Duhigg changed my life.
I recommoned BJ Fogg's tiny habits course: http://tinyhabits.com/. It's a really simple and easy free email course that shows one way of creating new habits.

How do you like those two apps? I'm currently trying out strides, but it seems like I only use it when I'm logging stuff. I'm kind of wondering if a paper calendar would be better to keep the logs right in front of me.

By being interested in what you are working on.
But you have to get to the point of developing interest in the first place. Developing Passion needs hardwork.
Most work requires periods of repetitive and boring work. Rockstar excepted.
Ok here's an obvious list of things that should be useful. Obviously you agree (as I do) with the Leo Babuta concept of 'habits' versus 'discipline' [0]. I'd say these are just the basis - but I believe all of them will help if you can apply them consistently. But I'd also say that there's not much point in trying other techniques until you feel you've consistently tried these for a year or more (potentially I'd say up to a life time of trying).

1. Headspace (daily meditation) [1] - helps with focus

2. Wait But Why on procrastination [2]

3. 4 Ways to get motivated [3] - I like the second one about a 'pre-game routine' doing the same physical activity just before starting work. I do the yoga 'sun salutation' twice (takes about 5 minutes, helps with back problems)

4. Leo Babuta's free 'Focus' book [4]

  [0]: http://zenhabits.net/discipline/
  [1]: https://headspace.com
  [2]: http://waitbutwhy.com/2013/10/why-procrastinators-procrastinate.html
  [3]: http://plan.io/blog/post/146892730063/4-ways-to-get-motivated-when-you-dont-feel-like
  [4]: http://focusmanifesto.com/
Personally, I'm a big fan of "Baby Steps" by Dr. Leo Marvin. It means setting small, reasonable goals for yourself, one day at a time, one tiny step at a time. Just set up long range plans and when executing, focus on the immediate step you are facing. Baby steps.
I keep this on my desk, in a spot where my eyes land whenever my head starts to wander: https://bwitzenhausen.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/butler-wal...

"First forget inspiration. Habit is more dependable. Habit will sustain you whether you're inspired or not. Habit will help you finish and polish your stories. Inspiration won't. Habit is persistence in practice."

> [The] idea — that your emotions about doing something must fall in line in order for you to actually do the thing — is what much of the existing motivational advice is based on, and yet it’s not entirely true

> You don’t have to feel like getting something done in order to actually get it done.

http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2016/04/this-is-the-best-advice...

I have a set of mandatory activities, which I do for one hour and forty minutes.

When I have motivation or interest, I pushed on.

With this, I released a rewritten version of a factorio mod(thank god that I didn't decide to try to rewrite all of it). I am also on the last leg in completing a story.

However, I got whacked with a computer hardware failure, exiling me from osx and data...

Now, I'll have to find other activities worth doing in lieu of a working computer until it get fixed. :(

I find it useful (essential, really) to understand how my todo tasks relate to my longterm goals. If I can't draw a line from my task to my goals, then it's less motivating.
Can I hijack and ask, how do I become a "determined" person with grit? Is it learnable? If something becomes too hard, I just convince myself the success is not worth it or not attainable.

I might actually be right. Success might not be worth it. It seems winners are usually more motivated by hatred and fear of losing / failure than the joy of winning. You see this with sports stars all the time (MJ).

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It's your life, and you define what success means for you.

How can it possibly be "not worth it"? Do you really just want to go through the motions until you die, without caring about achieving even the tiniest thing in the time you have?

After years of trying to learn Japanese through osmosis by living here, this year I managed to get myself to seriously study again despite not going to school anymore.

It's a combination of a study app called Nihongo and a reminder/streak app called Commit. Now after studying about 30 mins daily for 6 months I've started to really enjoy my study sessions, and the joy of seeing the characters I've learned in my daily life. Now when the Commit reminder comes up I've usually already started my study.

I made my own app to learn the kanjis from the book; it was the same as the book but I'd just flip cards on my phone and I'd learn more than in any lesson
Not related to habit formation, but may I say what worked for me when learning Japanese in Japan?

Take the Nihongo Nouryoku Shiken. Bookstores sell material to study for it. It's great having a study milestone.

Start reading, if you haven't already. Books, magazines, anything. A kanji you see "out in the field' for three times becomes yours.

To improve listening skills, I recommend watching lots of jdrama. If you don't understand a dialog, listen again.

And most importantly, interact as much as you can with Japanese people. This is harder than it sounds, because... Japan.

When I really have to work I use a chess clock. Old fashioned, mechanical, large and an ugly reminder of my time 'off the clock' because then the other clock starts to tick. The ratio between those two is the thing to maximize and it's extremely easy to use. Stop working just push one button, start working press again on the opposite side.

Very useful little trick and way easier to use than anything online or in an 'app'.

Thanks for this. I've been looking for an excuse to buy a chess clock.
RescueTime is a pretty good approximation of this for me and is automatic.
Two different solutions; RescueTime is good at analysing how your time is spent after the fact. A chess clock is a great real time stopwatch "oh man i've been googling rhubarb crumble recipes for 14 minutes..."
Pomodoro technique [1].

Break your time/tasks into 25-minute chunks, where you focus on a single task (no context-switching, pauses, breaking). Rinse, repeat.

I use Flat Tomato on the iPhone, and I can track how many pomodoros I complete each day/month, which gives a good feedback as to my goal tracking.

[1] http://caps.ucsd.edu/Downloads/tx_forms/koch/pomodoro_handou...

Used this and found it very useful!
If you have a Pebble, Solanum is fantastic.
I tried the pomodoro technique multiple times, and it failed. The reason for its failure was the lack of emphasis on setting up the right atmosphere.

Now a pomodoro (I use Productivity Planner, made by the guys who made 5 Minute Journal, so I keep track of my pomodoros) doesn't "count" unless I check everything off of the pomodoro prep checklist.

1. Airplane Mode / Turn Cellular Data Off (for urgent calls)

2. Freedom app (blocks websites)

3. Music (atmospheric, mostly)

4. Sign & Lights (let people know I am working, and have the right lighting)

5. Snacks & Tea / Energy Drink

6. Water

Then I lock the door, start the timer, and off I go.

Ever since I created this checklist, I have rarely been disrupted from my work. Sharpening the saw is quite important to saving willpower.

I used to do this during exams, suits me perfectly.

Another suggestion, If you're working on a side project or studying, try to do it early in the morning ( for me it's 4am ), you'll feel less distracted.

Early morning works well. Most of my effective pomodoros are before 11 am. I start around 6 or 7 am, and get most of the crucial things I want done for the day, done.

I don't even try to work after dinnertime if the work requires a lot of discipline. They never pan out for me. Better to sleep earlier and spend morning hours more effectively.

Constrain the time you have to do something.

Work often fills the time you give it. If you try to achieve something in a short amount of time, you'll be forced to work at 100% with full focus to get it done ASAP. I'm always amazed at how sometimes a dreadful task takes 10-20 minutes when I'm forced to do it in that timespan, but if I have an hour to do it, it'll take an hour.

To make the constraint feel real, put yourself in a situation where you only have a short period of time before something else must happen, like a meeting. Then you can trick yourself to get started and see how far you can get in 20 minutes.

When I had a kid, this definitely happened to me. While he's awake, there's a lot of time spent watching/minding him, however, while you're not actively doing anything it gives you time to plan. When I next get some free time, I find myself working at 100% without having to put much mental effort into it.
This does seem like a sensible way to invoke the panic monster - but for me it's often undermined by the fact that it's just me that tried to put the artificial deadline there and my brain happily ignores it moving onto the next deadline.

There was something similar laid out in this blog [1].

  [1]: http://www.raptitude.com/2015/03/how-to-get-yourself-to-do-things/
Thanks for sharing that blog post! I really liked this aspect of it:

"You finish a thing by starting it until it’s done."

I read another blog post whose thesis was "To avoid procrastinating, think about starting instead of finishing". That helped me a lot too. Once you start, work isn't as bad as it seemed.

This may work for some things, but fails spectacularly for creative and learning tasks.
I've personally had success with starting small and simple. I pick a habit that promises improvements and do one small and simple thing every day related to it. As it becomes a habit I can see results and adjust accordingly.

The best habit I have formed is to see the benefits of actions and forcing me every day to do them (by starting small and simple).

Its not a race. It takes time. Sometimes years. Be kind to yourself. You will make mistakes. Identify the mistake and learn from it. Then move on.

Have something I really, really want to do, and do that thing until it's done. Sort of the top idea in your mind: http://paulgraham.com/top.html.
This is difficult when you have 3 things that all tie for #1, and since they need to be sorted into #1 through #3, that sorting isn't stable sorting, so each time you mentally sort it, they might end up in another order. So #1 changes all the time.
If they tie just make an arbitrary decision. E.g. pick the least fun one. Or more analysis on which should win if that is appropriate.
For me, this typically involves a lot of analysis as to what the obstacles are. There are typically multiple things conspiring to turn me into a slacker and it doesn't generally work to just knuckle down and do it. Figuring out the underlying causes and addressing those is what works for me.

So, you might try spending some time asking yourself 'Why?' x, y or z is failing to get done. Be really honest with yourself. Don't tell yourself anything PC. Then, if you still want to get it done, solve those issues first.

Nice advice. Its inspiring.
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Beeminder (https://www.beeminder.com/overview#how_beeminder_works) has been life-changing for me, taking me from zero to working out 3x/week and meditating 4x/week, and currently helping me learn to blog more regularly.

It's in the same category (habit formation) as Daisy and Streaks but with a somewhat power-usery focus. You commit to any number of quantifiable goals (e.g. "work out three times a week for the next 6 months"), it reminds you to stay on track, and if you fall behind, actually charges you money. The idea is to tie your long-term goal ("work out regularly") to your short-term sense of immediate priority ("work out today or it'll cost ya").

One of the reasons it works for me is that it fits with a flexible schedule. I don't have to work out at 8am every Monday; I just have to work out sometime early in the week. I can build up a "backlog" and "spend" it later. Conversely if I have a crappy week and let habits slide, it reminds me to make up for it the following week.

The Beeminder team also blogs regularly on the subject of habit formation and self-control - e.g. http://blog.beeminder.com/flexbind/ which goes into more detail on why they've designed the system the way they have.

Work on something you would be really excited to work on even if you were a retired billionaire. Great projects pull work out of you.

The important thing is not to fool yourself into working on something you think you're excited about but deep down are really not that excited about.

Personally speaking, no apps helped me beat procrastination. What actually helped me a lot is figuring out that I am unhappy and depressed in my life and why is that. Once I figured that out I set for big changes, and stopped caring a lot for things that made me unhappy. I appreciated things I got, I started going on trips around the world and met my wife. After being happy in life I found my self in a very positive mood and very keen to explore things and not just sit in-front of a computer browsing youtube or other things that didn't help me in life.

Another thing that helped me a lot, although am a software engineer and I write code for a living, I said I'll only use computers, phones and whatsoever while I am at work. When am off work I am completely off tech, including TV. That forces me to enjoy time with my wife and go out do things, workout etc. Now of course this might not work if your goal is to make research or I don't know create app's per se or your own company. Although making sure that your hobby, goals, work whatever that is only takes part of your time a day and not the whole day tends to help into having a balanced life.

Good luck.

Edit: also something I forgot to mention those apps you mentioned might work for some people that like task specific programs etc, personally I find it that I couldn't program my life at all, I'd rather having it in a natural flow than having appointments with life, but thats just me, I see people that are quite happy with having a schedule.

I absolutely agree with you. I downgraded to a smart phone that only runs maps and has a camera and this has forced me to semi switch off tech when I'm away from my computer. My friends think I'm crazy (mostly because I'm a developer who doesn't have a "smart" phone).
lol, I do something similar. I've had to add a few apps finally for various reasons, but I basically just use my phone as a phone, I have email just so I have calendar reminders, and will occasionally do light web browsing when stuck waiting in lines (checking HN of course). Pretty much all notifications are turned off so that it's not distracting.

The funny bit for me, is I work for the phone company, on the data/signaling networks running the phones, and I barely use my cell.

I knew a person who owned 20 liquor stores but did not drink.
I'm genuinely curious to know what phone or plan you use that only runs maps and camera. Google Maps or soemthing like openstreet map? I'm looking to do something similar. Any info would be appreciated.
It's an iPhone 4 with a broken mic which I got for free. It's too old to run a lot of distracting apps (VSCO, Snapchat etc) and I can't call people. I have a $20/month (AUD) prepaid plan for 1GB data which gets me through easily. I guess it can only figuratively run maps/camera, but it's enough to keep me from using it 24/7. Battery also lasts several days because I use it so little.
I use and iPhone 4 (conveniently my mic is also broken) and I am not upgrading since I get /so/ much use of it. I feel it can run everything I would want from a smart phone.

My battery lasts like 10 minutes though, and the camera is kind of broken.

I swear every iPhone 4 has their home button and mic broken eventually. I think the battery life dives dramatically after some point which I haven't reached. Will probably upgrade after that happens.
Actually the mic works, I just get/give no sound when in a call. Works perfectly everywhere else. Home button works as well, but I mainly use something like Assistive Touch anyways.
i had that happen on my nexus 5. for me, it was a bug in the headphone jack, though i didnt bother to go about fixing it.

in a call, the phone thinks theres another mic installed, and tried to use that instead.

I did this also. Switched from a best of breed Android phone, to a Blackberry.

Yes. A Blackberry. One of newer ones that runs BB10. It supports just enough to enable me to read mail, and message my friends, but there are hardly any useful apps for it, and most of the Android apps that you try to install on it barely work either.

Added bonus - The built in Facebook app no longer works either.

End result, the Blackberry sits in my pocket 99% of the time. My phone is now a tool again, and not a distraction.

It's perfect for me - but your mileage may vary, of course.

Edit: like Fratlas, I also get about 2-3 days of usage out of one charge.

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I just use my iPhone 4S with IOS9, which is too slow to be used practically :).
Agree with you, one of the first thing for me to beat procrastination was to stop wasting time on useless things like checking facebook/twitter every 5 mins and getting rid of the FOMO completely, this is easier said that done, but feels great once achieved. i removed facebook and twitter from my phone, put your phone to Do not disturb and suddenly i have all the time in the world. I use this time to think/plan and create efficient habits/methodologies to beat procrastination.
HabitBull(http://www.habitbull.com/) is great app for this. It also ties into quantified self analysis pretty well. I had some great luck with implementing GTD with Omnifocus and Focus GTD for personal projects.
My phone's calendar app has become crucial to me. Recurring tasks - work cycles, fitness, etc. - get a recurring block, with a well-defined start and end time. Non-programmed to-dos("remember to bring a..." "don't forget to take care of...") are accomplished by throwing in the task somewhat arbitrarily at a moment in the future when I might be able to do it. Between those two I always "find the time" to work on what I intended to work on and my stress about what needs doing goes way down, while my consistency goes up.

Sometimes the schedule slips or I sleep in and let a bunch of tasks slide; this is an expected failure mode and I build it into how I use the calendar. I do not think about strategies to be productive anymore - my maximum capacity per day is acknowledged by setting those start and end times, and if I want to produce a lot then I aim for consistency.

I have to say, Google Inbox has utterly changed my life with its Reminders feature
though it's dangerous to tie yourself into these things...
I wrote an application that I use for exactly this purpose: https://github.com/ioddly/meditations

It's a little rough around the edges at the moment, and there are no executable builds, but it tracks completion so that you get a big picture view. For example it tells me I have exercised 9 days this month, 100% of the days I've set out for this month, and am on a streak of 100+ days.

Aside from that, meditation and removing distracting things from my environment have been most important (for example blocking timesink websites on my work computer). And the work of James Clear has been very influential on all of this: http://jamesclear.com/