"This is a conversation with Ola Bini on his experimental language Ioke. We cover the idea behind the Ioke experiment as well as important language concepts and the thinking behind them."
Ioke has lots of mutable state (rather than Clojure's strict lockdown on mutable state). Ioke isn't concerned at all with concurrency (which Clojure is).
They both have macros, and ioke's syntax looks nicer to non-lispers than clojure's. Ioke (iirc) is considerably slower than clojure, and kinda difficult to optimize.
> Ioke (iirc) is considerably slower than clojure, and kinda difficult to optimize.
Throughout last year Ola mentioned many times in his blog, that he's not concerned with speed optimisation at this point, but mainly features. I'm not sure about the "hard to optimise" part... Also if you look at the Ioke manifesto[1]:
> This is really the full manifesto of Ioke, if you ever had to choose just one. In any situation where I have to choose between expressiveness or performance, expressiveness is always the answer.
Don't remember him mentioning anything about concurrency though.
Recently I wrote a small Ioke tutorial in which a simple Rake clone is built. The tutorial assumes you've already read the Ioke guide, though: http://jdp.github.com/biild/
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They both have macros, and ioke's syntax looks nicer to non-lispers than clojure's. Ioke (iirc) is considerably slower than clojure, and kinda difficult to optimize.
Throughout last year Ola mentioned many times in his blog, that he's not concerned with speed optimisation at this point, but mainly features. I'm not sure about the "hard to optimise" part... Also if you look at the Ioke manifesto[1]:
> This is really the full manifesto of Ioke, if you ever had to choose just one. In any situation where I have to choose between expressiveness or performance, expressiveness is always the answer.
Don't remember him mentioning anything about concurrency though.
[1] http://olabini.com/blog/2009/05/the-ioke-philosophy/
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