Ask HN: Is it okay to have a short gap of unemployment on your resume?
Here's my specific scenario: I'm moving to a new city with my spouse who just got a university position. I'm a Rails and Java developer with about 5 years experience. I have a job now at a large corporation and 1. they won't let me work remotely, and 2. I want out anyways. I'm pretty sure I have a job lined up in the new city, but haven't been able to apply to and interview as many companies as I'd like to have, and the move date is approaching. Is it ok to have a gap of a few months on your resume? I'd like to move and be able to take my time choosing a new position. Thanks!
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[ 4.0 ms ] story [ 63.8 ms ] threadMy only comment, if you let a few months turn into 5-6+ months, you may want to explain up front versus them seeing a 6 month gap as you may not get in the door for a competitive position. You can do this in your intro email/cover letter, mention that you recently moved to the city, took some time to vacation and get to know the city a little and recently saw their position advertised and felt it might be a good match. Or something along those lines.
Imagine this scenario: developer A has been working in a time span of 10 years without résumé gaps. Developer B has been working for 9 years and has been taking gaps of 4 months every 3 years. Do you really think there is going to be a big difference between the two developers in terms of skills set? 10, 9, 8 years, it doesn't make a difference at all in terms of accumulated knowledge. But developer B has been doing "something else" during a whole year (3 gaps of 4months each). Maybe he travelled the world and learned a little bit of a couple of languages, and I'd say that's a valuable non-technical skill to have.
As I've said, I see more good than harm in taking a few month off from time to time.
Going back to your question: if it's just for a few months I see no problem at all, and if recruiters ask then just explain what you have post.
So when you change job of your own initiative, it is assumed that you first get a new position, then give a notice and start your new position. If you have gaps, we can imagined that it's because you were let go (and therefore were unprepared to start something new). Now, why were you let go? Were you not performing well?
I'm not saying it's right or wrong; just explaining how long and recurrent gaps can be interpreted.
It's pretty much the same in Europe (except when you take gaps, of course).
> I'm not saying it's right or wrong; just explaining how long and recurrent gaps can be interpreted.
Recurrent gaps can be interpreted in a lot of different ways, but there is just one real reason behind them. But I see how recruiters can assume things before asking for real answers (e.g. 6 months gap and this guy hasn't been able to find a job? Next!). It's a pity.
> It's pretty much the same in Europe
Not exactly. If I understand things correctly, in US when your employer fires you the very same day you're unemployed. There's no mandatory notice period. In Europe, there usually is a notice period guaranteed in employment laws, so if you're fired, you can still find a job before termination.
It's not much of a stretch to image a hiring manager seeing this and thinking:
- What happened that caused this person to leave their previous job? Were they fired or laid off because they were underperforming?
- Why has it taken them 3-4 months to reach us? Have they been applying to a bunch of places and they were rejected from all of them?
I think the answer to the original question depends enormously on what type of person you are. If you're extremely confident in yourself, and in your skills, and you're naturally positive and optimistic then you should be fine.
If you have the sort of personality that tends towards introspection and self-doubt, then think very carefully before doing this. Think about how you'll feel after your 10th rejection, or when your savings are starting to run low. Will you still bounce back?
Finally, I've heard that some recruiters use your current employment status as a filtering criterion. So your CV might not even get looked at. This is insane, but I've heard it enough times to think it might be true.
When everything isn't on the line, you can learn to relax and enjoy.
I try to never go more than a few months without a bit of practice, and now I'm head and shoulders above most people with my interview confidence.
Most you can hope for is delaying the start date in a new position. But, again, they likely will ask your notice period and your end date, and be a bit suspicious of a a delayed start date.
How would they know, in the first place? I always use year ranges to describe previous employments. So, job one could be 2003-2006, and the next one 2006-2011. Gap? Between zero days and 11 months or thereabouts.
Also, 2003-2006 followed by 2007-2011 could mea. A gap from zero to almost two years, but it doesn't look that way.
(USA - North West)
But I really wouldn't worry about a small gap especially when moving to a new city.
Once you know you're leaving and getting ready to turn in your notice you could ask HR if you could take unpaid leave so your last official day is a few months out, not sure this is possible but if you're worried about your last official day of employment or a gap it might be worth asking.
I think I've only had one company contact my previous companies HR to verify my dates of employment. And one of my former companies HR staff called to let me know about it and see if it was ok to give them information and say they weren't even sure they can legally call up and ask for employee information like that.
Anyway good luck landing a new gig.
It was absolutely no problem and I actually think it helped me because I spent a decent amount of that travelling time developing skills I didn't have previously (both technical and soft skills).
But you as a programmer? I cannot imagine it being a problem. You are a high-skill worker who earns enough that you can easily afford to take the time off. Just say you were exploring personal projects in your spare time. That sounds awesome.
I've come to the point where I'm glad that interviewers show their cards this way. If a company does stupid things like this, I really don't want work for them anyway.
I know there are times when you can't be picky and have to be glad to get a job but I don't believe for a moment that the work environment will turn out to be great after they pull stuff like that in the interview.
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Should anyone probe further, tell them ... I'm not a job-hopper, I've been very selective on my search looking for a good company match. Things that are important to me are the quality of the people, interesting work problems to solve, and obviously a good compensation package.
I have worked in two different career fields. When I made that switch, getting the professional certifications took me about 3 months, during which time I was not working. Almost nobody asks about the gap, though almost everyone asks about the career switch.
I have a several year period in which I was working only contract employment. There are gaps of up to 5 months between contracts. Most employers ask something about that time, and most are satisfied with the simple explanation that finding a new contract took that much time.
Some employers care more than others. IBM required me to write a letter of explanation for every gap of 3 months or more. Some employers don't even ask.
Yes, some companies will have filters for things like "hasn't worked in X months => automatic dismiss pile", but by and large, I've found that it depends how that gap fits in with the rest of your life/work story.
They'll wonder about the following Was that gap after 3 months working somewhere? Was it after 5 years? What caused it? Boredom? Familial reasons? Illness? With a tight narrative (e.g. reasonable explanations and a human story), you'll be fine. The person(s) on the other end are also human beings, and most recognize that life happens. It's okay.
I've hired a lot of people and I wouldn't even question a few month gap.. Life happens. I would question more then a 6-8 month gap.
That is would the gap be known about from public record, or is it up to you whether to specify it in your CV or not?
Also, how would you put the "tried a startup, failed" unemployment period into the CV?
This usually creates the air of a real person during interviews. They find me interesting and interested, and as such I stand a better chance of being accepted into their community at the workplace.