Ask HN: Is it okay to have a short gap of unemployment on your resume?

16 points by jressey ↗ HN
Here's my specific scenario: I'm moving to a new city with my spouse who just got a university position. I'm a Rails and Java developer with about 5 years experience. I have a job now at a large corporation and 1. they won't let me work remotely, and 2. I want out anyways. I'm pretty sure I have a job lined up in the new city, but haven't been able to apply to and interview as many companies as I'd like to have, and the move date is approaching. Is it ok to have a gap of a few months on your resume? I'd like to move and be able to take my time choosing a new position. Thanks!

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Yes it's fine. You could take advantage of these few months to do something, like volunteering, OOS contributions, mentorship, etc to make it even "more okay". But your scenario is valid explanation enough.
Agreed. In the worst case scenario, you could be consulting to a small startup, yourself. Just be sure to improve yourself during that downtime so that you don't come back into the search rusty.
Yep, absolutely fine. If anyone asks, just tell them the truth, you moved, left one company and are learning the new market and who's there.

My only comment, if you let a few months turn into 5-6+ months, you may want to explain up front versus them seeing a 6 month gap as you may not get in the door for a competitive position. You can do this in your intro email/cover letter, mention that you recently moved to the city, took some time to vacation and get to know the city a little and recently saw their position advertised and felt it might be a good match. Or something along those lines.

Serious question: what's the problem with résumé gaps? Is it a big deal in USA? I'd say that in Europe it's not such a big deal. Nobody is going to ask you why you have, for instance, a 4 month gap in your résumé if you have been working 3 or 4 years in a row. Almost everyone would guess that you took that time off, and that's not a bad thing precisely. Perhaps you took that time to learn new skills, to read a ton of books, to travel around the world, to be with your kids,... a lot of activities that do more good than harm. Most of us are going to work until we are 60 or so, so what's the big deal with having a few months every 5 years or so in our résumé? They give you a medal if you finish your career without gaps?

Imagine this scenario: developer A has been working in a time span of 10 years without résumé gaps. Developer B has been working for 9 years and has been taking gaps of 4 months every 3 years. Do you really think there is going to be a big difference between the two developers in terms of skills set? 10, 9, 8 years, it doesn't make a difference at all in terms of accumulated knowledge. But developer B has been doing "something else" during a whole year (3 gaps of 4months each). Maybe he travelled the world and learned a little bit of a couple of languages, and I'd say that's a valuable non-technical skill to have.

As I've said, I see more good than harm in taking a few month off from time to time.

Going back to your question: if it's just for a few months I see no problem at all, and if recruiters ask then just explain what you have post.

Thank you and very good question. I posted this here because I'm not sure if it's just something my parents (workaholics) convinced me of, or a real thing. I am in the USA, and from my perspective, not having resume gaps is hugely important, but I'm hoping I'm mistaken. These answers are helping me realize maybe I am.
The difference in the US is that employment is mostly "at-will". An employee can be let go pretty much any day without notice.

So when you change job of your own initiative, it is assumed that you first get a new position, then give a notice and start your new position. If you have gaps, we can imagined that it's because you were let go (and therefore were unprepared to start something new). Now, why were you let go? Were you not performing well?

I'm not saying it's right or wrong; just explaining how long and recurrent gaps can be interpreted.

> So when you change job of your own initiative, it is assumed that you first get a new position, then give a notice and start your new position.

It's pretty much the same in Europe (except when you take gaps, of course).

> I'm not saying it's right or wrong; just explaining how long and recurrent gaps can be interpreted.

Recurrent gaps can be interpreted in a lot of different ways, but there is just one real reason behind them. But I see how recruiters can assume things before asking for real answers (e.g. 6 months gap and this guy hasn't been able to find a job? Next!). It's a pity.

>> So when you change job of your own initiative, it is assumed that you first get a new position, then give a notice and start your new position.

> It's pretty much the same in Europe

Not exactly. If I understand things correctly, in US when your employer fires you the very same day you're unemployed. There's no mandatory notice period. In Europe, there usually is a notice period guaranteed in employment laws, so if you're fired, you can still find a job before termination.

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A gap in the past is probably not a problem, but a gap between your last job and the job you are applying for is a big red flag. Being unemployed puts you at a disadvantage because it makes you seem less desirable.

It's not much of a stretch to image a hiring manager seeing this and thinking:

- What happened that caused this person to leave their previous job? Were they fired or laid off because they were underperforming?

- Why has it taken them 3-4 months to reach us? Have they been applying to a bunch of places and they were rejected from all of them?

I did this in the UK and it felt like a huge deal. I wasn't yet a developer at the time, but I think my experience is still relevant. It seemed to really have an impact on interviews. The interviewer would end up asking a lot of questions about why I left the previous job (it was for quite innocent reasons), rather than the stuff I really wanted to be talking about, which puts the whole thing on a downer from the start. It affected me a lot, which meant I started to become very nervous before interviews, so performed badly, got even more nervous, etc. I pretty much have a phobia of interviews to this day (almost 10 years later) because of it.

I think the answer to the original question depends enormously on what type of person you are. If you're extremely confident in yourself, and in your skills, and you're naturally positive and optimistic then you should be fine.

If you have the sort of personality that tends towards introspection and self-doubt, then think very carefully before doing this. Think about how you'll feel after your 10th rejection, or when your savings are starting to run low. Will you still bounce back?

Finally, I've heard that some recruiters use your current employment status as a filtering criterion. So your CV might not even get looked at. This is insane, but I've heard it enough times to think it might be true.

Do more interviews. Jobs you're vaguely interested and qualified for, but aren't likely to switch for.

When everything isn't on the line, you can learn to relax and enjoy.

I try to never go more than a few months without a bit of practice, and now I'm head and shoulders above most people with my interview confidence.

This is my experience too in the UK. 6 months is border-line unemployable – expect at the very least a salary low-ball offer. I don't know many people in our industry in the UK who would take 3 months off and not worry about their career.

Most you can hope for is delaying the start date in a new position. But, again, they likely will ask your notice period and your end date, and be a bit suspicious of a a delayed start date.

I have the opposite experience in the UK. I have god knows how many gaps in my resume... for all sorts of reason. Probably part of the reason why I became a contractor ; as it's kinda part of the job. Anyway, interviewers have never raised it. Perhaps it's just that we don't apply to the same type of tech companies.
"Nobody is going to ask you why you have, for instance, a 4 month gap in your résumé"

How would they know, in the first place? I always use year ranges to describe previous employments. So, job one could be 2003-2006, and the next one 2006-2011. Gap? Between zero days and 11 months or thereabouts.

Also, 2003-2006 followed by 2007-2011 could mea. A gap from zero to almost two years, but it doesn't look that way.

I have two (5+ month) gaps in my resume; one was so that I could party, the other was so that I could work on a personal project (that would definitely not make money). When people ask what I did during those breaks I tell them 'personal time' and that I wanted to explore a personal project in more detail (respectively). I do not seem to be any less employable.

(USA - North West)

This is anecdotal -- but it seems like companies are more or less pretty understanding if your reason is justifiable. I had a string of jobs (fulltime, then laid off, then consulting for 3 separate clients). I interviewed with over 20 companies this year and no one had a problem with the gaps in my resume. They were more interested (concerned?) about why I had worked with so many companies.
I wouldn't worry about it too much. Any chance you can obtain a contract position or freelance work during that time so you can just list it as contract position/work.

But I really wouldn't worry about a small gap especially when moving to a new city.

Once you know you're leaving and getting ready to turn in your notice you could ask HR if you could take unpaid leave so your last official day is a few months out, not sure this is possible but if you're worried about your last official day of employment or a gap it might be worth asking.

I think I've only had one company contact my previous companies HR to verify my dates of employment. And one of my former companies HR staff called to let me know about it and see if it was ok to give them information and say they weren't even sure they can legally call up and ask for employee information like that.

Anyway good luck landing a new gig.

Having gaps on your resume isn't a big deal. If you're good at what you do you shouldn't have any problems. I have two 6 month gaps on my resume and it wasn't any problem getting my current job as a DevOps engineer. It can be a smart move taking your time to find the right thing. The last thing you want is to end up working somewhere just so you can have a paycheck.
I had a 13 month gap between my last job and my current job, because I went travelling and then migrated to a new country.

It was absolutely no problem and I actually think it helped me because I spent a decent amount of that travelling time developing skills I didn't have previously (both technical and soft skills).

I had a friend who was looking for Administrative Assistant roles with a 2 year gap on her resume and it was a problem. The companies could always find a younger person to sit in the chair and do the menial tasks, and somebody with no gaps is more likely to stay put. They also marked her down in interviews for not knowing the latest Excel version (even though she knew Excel and had been using it for years, like anything significant had changed in a year). So jobs like that are kind of shitty to applicants.

But you as a programmer? I cannot imagine it being a problem. You are a high-skill worker who earns enough that you can easily afford to take the time off. Just say you were exploring personal projects in your spare time. That sounds awesome.

> They also marked her down in interviews for not knowing the latest Excel version [...]

I've come to the point where I'm glad that interviewers show their cards this way. If a company does stupid things like this, I really don't want work for them anyway.

I know there are times when you can't be picky and have to be glad to get a job but I don't believe for a moment that the work environment will turn out to be great after they pull stuff like that in the interview.

As people have already said, a gap is not a problem. Being 'left behind' in your chosen niche can be a problem, though - volunteering, side projects...anything can make you 'safe'.

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An asterisk on your CV time line will suffice: * Transferred to New City with my spouse. Took some personal garden leave during the transition.

Should anyone probe further, tell them ... I'm not a job-hopper, I've been very selective on my search looking for a good company match. Things that are important to me are the quality of the people, interesting work problems to solve, and obviously a good compensation package.

As someone with gaps in my resume for various reasons, I have found a range of responses by potential employers.

I have worked in two different career fields. When I made that switch, getting the professional certifications took me about 3 months, during which time I was not working. Almost nobody asks about the gap, though almost everyone asks about the career switch.

I have a several year period in which I was working only contract employment. There are gaps of up to 5 months between contracts. Most employers ask something about that time, and most are satisfied with the simple explanation that finding a new contract took that much time.

Some employers care more than others. IBM required me to write a letter of explanation for every gap of 3 months or more. Some employers don't even ask.

It GREATLY depends on the narrative.

Yes, some companies will have filters for things like "hasn't worked in X months => automatic dismiss pile", but by and large, I've found that it depends how that gap fits in with the rest of your life/work story.

They'll wonder about the following Was that gap after 3 months working somewhere? Was it after 5 years? What caused it? Boredom? Familial reasons? Illness? With a tight narrative (e.g. reasonable explanations and a human story), you'll be fine. The person(s) on the other end are also human beings, and most recognize that life happens. It's okay.

Few months is no big deal.. If they ask just say you moved because your spouse for a new job and you helped manage the move and the new place so you took a bit of time off.

I've hired a lot of people and I wouldn't even question a few month gap.. Life happens. I would question more then a 6-8 month gap.

Yes it's fine. In this day and age, it's almost suspicious not to have any gaps in one's tech resume. There are just so many sources of discontinuity in a career nowadays.
A related question - is there an official job registry in the USA?

That is would the gap be known about from public record, or is it up to you whether to specify it in your CV or not?

Also, how would you put the "tried a startup, failed" unemployment period into the CV?

Just insert 'sabbatical' or 'self-employed' for the duration. Whichever you can explain as the reason for a break. I tend to go with 'sabbatical' and explain during interviews that I managed work-life balance poorly and that needed sorting out. I might also mention how my relationship is for the better after my break, and that I am now more able to stay consistent, without swings in mood and existential crisis. I might also mention a hobby project I picked up that keeps me busy in my free time, like going back to reading fiction, woodworking, gardening, etc.

This usually creates the air of a real person during interviews. They find me interesting and interested, and as such I stand a better chance of being accepted into their community at the workplace.