One of those great "reality is stranger than fiction" stories. Are we only learning about this because it's become recently declassified? How've I not heard of this before?
> While Project Iceworm was secret, plans for Camp Century were discussed with and approved by Denmark, and the facility, including its nuclear power plant, was profiled in The Saturday Evening Post magazine in 1960.
That's a matter of perspective, apparently, to me that is the most interesting part. The fact that it took decades before it was declassified and only then caused an inquiry by the Danish parliament indicates that some other people thought it was interesting as well, at least interesting enough to attempt to keep it buried forever.
I think, perhaps, he meant "uninteresting" in the sense that the obvious assumption was that it would be a nuclear missile base, while the hope was that it was something much cooler.
The blog post is somewhat misleading and /or misinformed. The "scientific mission" was always cover. The operation was too large to hide completely, so a semi-plausible (though on any reflection, pretty patently absurd) cover story, "For Science!" was constructed, complete with propaganda films featuring against-regulation-puppy-dogs....
I'd run across a reference to this in an old documentary video on "Camp Century" now online. Watching it I got the distinct impression that the story was not as it was described -- the mission involved 3,000 m of tunnels, included a shop, theater, and church, some 200 men, and a nuclear reactor for power generation. That's a lot of men and materiel just for a science mission.
As noted, turns out it was cover for a larger scheme: 4,000 kilometers of tunnels in which 600 nuclear-warhead tipped missiles were to be deployed.
But the ice cap proved too unstable and the project was cancelled after six years (the reactor removed before that).
The true irony is this: one of the more enduring results of the mission was scientific, as it produced numerous ice cores and established that the Greenland ice cap was far more dynamic than originally thought. Fake science ends up producing ... real science.
I actually mentioned that in the comment of mine I'd borrowed from here.
Fun fact: I knew one of he scientists on the cover mission for the Glomar Explorer.
He was on the ship for the duration of the mission. And didn't even realise the true purpose until he read about it in the news.
Something to keep in mind if you're getting assurances from people working at or for a project or organisation that there's nothing twisted going on -- first, it needn't be a laargee operation that is, and even a full second crew and submarine-sized sea bay can be hidden, on a ship.
>Watching it I got the distinct impression that the story was not as it was described -- the mission involved 3,000 m of tunnels, included a shop, theater, and church, some 200 men, and a nuclear reactor for power generation. That's a lot of men and materiel just for a science mission.
How does that compare to scientific missions in Antarctica?
Well, you might want to consider what besides science might be going on there. And no, I don't know that there is or what it might be.
I do know of severaal very large "science" projects with a significant military role or side mission.
The US and Soviet manned space programmes, particularly Apollo and the Space Shuttle (though the USAF customer of the latter ultimately pursued alternate options).
Much nuclear and high-energy research, including related supercomputing facilities, have direct nuclear weapons relations.
Radio astronomy got a huge kick froma desire to monitor opposing superpower activities. The US National Radio Quiet Are in West Virginia and Aricebo dish both had roles in detecting Soviet nuclear tests, through radio signatures bounced off the Moon.
The US Interstate system was sold on defence implications. Oracle Corporation grew out of the CIA's Project Oracle.
And of course there was a little resilient networking project SRI and UCLA were working on some years ago.
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[ 3.3 ms ] story [ 46.4 ms ] threadThe only classified part of this story is the relatively uninteresting part - that this was to be a nuclear missile base. From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Iceworm :
> While Project Iceworm was secret, plans for Camp Century were discussed with and approved by Denmark, and the facility, including its nuclear power plant, was profiled in The Saturday Evening Post magazine in 1960.
I'd run across a reference to this in an old documentary video on "Camp Century" now online. Watching it I got the distinct impression that the story was not as it was described -- the mission involved 3,000 m of tunnels, included a shop, theater, and church, some 200 men, and a nuclear reactor for power generation. That's a lot of men and materiel just for a science mission.
As noted, turns out it was cover for a larger scheme: 4,000 kilometers of tunnels in which 600 nuclear-warhead tipped missiles were to be deployed.
But the ice cap proved too unstable and the project was cancelled after six years (the reactor removed before that).
The true irony is this: one of the more enduring results of the mission was scientific, as it produced numerous ice cores and established that the Greenland ice cap was far more dynamic than originally thought. Fake science ends up producing ... real science.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Iceworm http://defensetech.org/2012/04/06/inside-the-armys-secret-co... Greatest Mysteries of the Cold War: Nuclear Powered Subterranean Secret Base in Greenland (720p) http://fixyt.com/watch?v=NkvRwoVdzk8
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSF_Explorer
I wonder which of today's scientific projects will turn out fake.
Fun fact: I knew one of he scientists on the cover mission for the Glomar Explorer.
He was on the ship for the duration of the mission. And didn't even realise the true purpose until he read about it in the news.
Something to keep in mind if you're getting assurances from people working at or for a project or organisation that there's nothing twisted going on -- first, it needn't be a laargee operation that is, and even a full second crew and submarine-sized sea bay can be hidden, on a ship.
Makes you think.
How does that compare to scientific missions in Antarctica?
I do know of severaal very large "science" projects with a significant military role or side mission.
The US and Soviet manned space programmes, particularly Apollo and the Space Shuttle (though the USAF customer of the latter ultimately pursued alternate options).
Much nuclear and high-energy research, including related supercomputing facilities, have direct nuclear weapons relations.
Radio astronomy got a huge kick froma desire to monitor opposing superpower activities. The US National Radio Quiet Are in West Virginia and Aricebo dish both had roles in detecting Soviet nuclear tests, through radio signatures bounced off the Moon.
The US Interstate system was sold on defence implications. Oracle Corporation grew out of the CIA's Project Oracle.
And of course there was a little resilient networking project SRI and UCLA were working on some years ago.