Ask HN: got any food hacks?
I'm having trouble finding a way of consuming food that has an optimal balance of being healthy, cheap, quick, and tasty. I don't want to eat ramen (or most processed foods), but I don't want to spend an hour every day preparing, cooking, and cleaning. I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions to share (tips, recipes, whatever). I'm a single grad student, but advice for others is also appreciated.
For example, I remember an HN submission where the writer talked about paying someone who lived nearby and cooked well to drop off leftovers most evenings. Someone else talked about preparing a whole bunch of meals the first weekend of the month then freezing them (this probably requires a second fridge). From the body building community I picked up the idea to drink a lot of milk, because it's a great source of cheap good calories. I'm not necessarily looking for actions so drastic and perhaps "gimmicky", simpler ideas would work just as well ("making such-and-such is really quick and makes a bunch of leftovers that taste just as good as the first time", etc.)
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[ 3.7 ms ] story [ 214 ms ] thread1. Buy several bags of chicken drumsticks (de-skin if you want to lower fat intake), poke holes with a fork, marinate with wine / vinegar / soy sauce / herbs and spices for a few hours, put into broiler. I'd cook 30 or so at a time, and it'd last me days.
2. Ham or turkey or peanut butter sandwiches.
3. bags of frozen veggies. Stir-fry if you have time, boil or microwave if you don't.
4. Peanut butter & banana & milk & protein powder drinks. I'd make a big glass every night for my snack.
5. Mixed nuts to snack on.
Lots of good fats, low glycemic index carbs, and protein; inexpensive and quick.
For a dessert you can mix the powder, peanut butter, a banana, and some dark chocolate together...microwave or blend it. I haven't really perfected that recipe though, I use a cup of protein powder and it's too much relative to the other ingredients.
1. Cereal and milk
2. Oatmeal
3. Rice and beans
4. Noodles (all kinds) 5. Chips 6. Fish 7. Melons 8. Peanut Butter9. Whole-grain bread
10. Mixed Nuts
11. Carrots
12. Apples, oranges, and bananas13. Cookies
14. Deli cheese
Ok, those last two aren't so healthy, but they're delicious enough to be worth it imho.(Also, I'm pescatarian if you couldn't tell.)
This one, to be specific: http://www.amazon.com/Maxi-Aids-Microwave-Rice-Cooker/dp/B00...
13 minutes works for spaghetti in my microwave.
I cook food in bulk, and just re-cook it on the stove, make a bowl of rice, and eat it over the next week. Even meat, and it tastes about as good as the first time. I usually keep it in the fridge, but I'm fine even if it's left outside and covered.
Might take a bit of time to cook the first time, but you can make some healthy and nutritious food, and it'll be ready in minutes every time after the first.
If you have a fridge, you probably have a freezer. Invest 20$ in dollar-store tupperware, and freeze your food in single-servings.
Try to keep your food either frozen or at least as hot as boiling.
I picked up this habit in China, where it seemed to be common to cook food and leave it out, covered with a net to keep mosquitos out. So I think whether or not you get really sick from this depends on your immune system.
That being said, you're right there can still be significant bacterial growth in a fridge.
Buy from vegan delivery chefs in your area.
I's pretty easy, and a counterbalance to any eating out you might want to do
Of course, maybe I'm trying to turn people orange.
* Frozen tilapia fillets (probably the healthiest fish you can buy, not as high in Omega-3 as larger ocean fish, but it's super low in mercury).
* Yellow corn tortillas (much lower in fat and sodium than the wheat or white corn ones).
* Salsa (I buy Herdez brand, it's basically Pico De Gallo with no additives. I can't stand tomatoes in any other form. Red vegetables are good for you, and it's the one way I can get some)
* Queso Fresco or some other cheese (not too much)
Procedure:
The tilapia you can just stick in a toaster oven (or a full on oven) under broil for 15-20mins, with some salt and pepper, and whatever other spices you feel like that day.
Put tortillas on ungreased skillet (or hot plate) for 10-15 secs each side. Take off, add your cheese, put in fish (slice the fillet as you see fit), and add salsa and whatever other vegetables (some chopped lettuce, and sometimes even cabbage works).
EAT!
1 tilapia fillet is very filling and makes 2-3 tacos.In conclusion: fast, easy, delicious, and very healthy. The frozen tilapia fillets keep in the freezer for quite a while. Trader Joe's sells panko-crusted ones that you can substitute once in a for some extra fun.
Add a little meat for flavor. I'm partial to a small chunk of sausage/chorizo/pepperoni, diced in small bits. Plus tomato paste (not ketchup - sugar again) and paprika. Spice up at will, but I find Tabasco too vinegary.
Add water to make it soupy, boil for 10 minutes, eat with bread. Microwave in a bowl if you're lazy (er, efficient) like me, or are re-heating a leftover portion.
Tossing a portion of chicken breast, in a dry non-stick frying pan, into the oven for 20 or 30 minutes (?), while doing something else, was also a favorite in my grad student days.
When I want to spend a weekend hacking, and don't want to be bothered, I'll cook a big batch of steel cut oats in the slow cooker, starting it on a Friday night. Then I know I can just mix in a few table spoon of the good "grind it yourself" peanut butter with a cup or two of oatmeal. It leaves me feeling satiated, and is rather healthy with lots of fiber and protein without much fat, and without sugar.
Breakfast: cook with cinnamon, apples, raisins and honey (and any other dried fruit you care to add). Serve with pecans/walnuts/your favorite nut to add an extra protein boost.
Lunch/dinner: cook and cool, add onions, cilantro, black beans, a little tomato, a bit of crushed garlic. Basically a fresh salsa that is mostly quinoa.
Quinoa also makes a good porridge. I've mixed a cup of cooked qunoa cookd porridge style with a cup of softly cooked (and drained and rinsed) black beans with hot milk and a TBsp of agave syrup for a super awesome breakfast.
It's also really versatile. I often use it instead of rice in simple rice dishes (rice and beans, etc.), and it can substitute for pasta too.
http://www.lovelyrecipes.com/recipe.php?recipeid=3460 - the recipe
Since it is pasta.
There are some tricks, but it boils down to either you spend the time or the money, or you're going to end up with unhealthy/bland/repetitive food. If it's fast, cheap, and healthy, then it's one of the few meals in that category and will therefore become repetitive. You see where I'm going.
They cost a dollar or two each. Poke a couple holes, nuke on high for 8 minutes, slice open and eat.
Lots of calories and vitamins.
Add butter and brown sugar if you want. Or salt.
http://www.gettingfreedom.net/2009/02/lentil-brown-rice-cass...
Very easy, and can produce several days of leftovers.
Another variation on the easy burritos is simply taking a can or two of beans, mashing them with a jar salsa, and adding some rice.
Quinoa is another option for cheap, healthy food. It cooks relatively quickly and is purported to have one of the most complete types of protein.
Also, to spice up rice, couscous, or quinoa, cook it with vegetable broth instead of plain water.
PS: If you drink whole milk in large quantities, make sure you do the weight training to compensate. Otherwise, you'll just get fat.
If you don't want to cook or clean, that means someone has to cook/package for you. If you don't want processed food (and I don't blame you) where this is done by machine, then you have to pay for something done by real people. This will by-definition be not cheap, since labor is relatively expensive in food prep.
You could just snack on raw veggies but I'm guessing you wouldn't consider that tasty for long.
Much better would be to structure your life in such a way that you can spare the hour. Go read In Defense of Food as to why, then ask yourself about your priorities. To do otherwise is to put work/school above your health which makes no sense at all.
Cooking is an investment. The more you cook, the better you get at it; the faster and tastier the results. And the more you cook, the healthier you will eat overall (at least if you're living in North America).
As for hacks, here's one. Take semi-prepared food, like macaroni & cheese in-the-box-with-the-faux-cheese-powder-in-the-paper-pouch, and augment it. The basic recipe is written on the box and fool-proof. Add something else to it like chopped-up left-over chicken that you warm up in the oven until sizzling.
Personally, I enjoy cooking and often manage to turn it into a positive, relaxing part of my day: a drink, some music, ideally a friend (though not lately), and results that I'm proud of. Unfortunately, this is the image of cooking that most educated people are confronted with when they first face the task of cooking for themselves: yuppies amusing themselves and/or showing off their uber-conscious, uber-sophisticated lifestyle-fu. (I never reach such heights, but I understand that's what I'm supposed to be, and in some sense really am, aspiring to.) The problem is that you can't really do this every day unless you dedicate a lot of time to it.
That's not the only way to do it, though. Sometimes I like to cook something interesting or impressive, but more often than not, my priorities are elsewhere. I only cook because would rather not order in (too unhealthy) or go out (too time-consuming.) I usually manage to spend well under an hour cooking, preparing, and cleaning. Consider some of the slapped-together things I've eaten recently:
- Whole-wheat pasta plus lentils plus pasta sauce from a jar plus some broccoli haphazardly chopped up and cooked briefly in the pasta sauce. A nutritional powerhouse of a meal; who cares if it's a bit too unrefined to serve to dinner guests? Who cares if this meal doesn't exemplify any trendy food idea? Who cares if half of it came from a jar, as long as I can recognize the ingredients on the label?
- Frozen baby lima beans plus olive oil plus garlic (a few cloves quartered) plus some dried thyme and sage that have been sitting in my pantry for about a year. The recipe calls for kalamata olives, but I didn't want to go to the store. Fuck it, it would have been much better with the olives, but it was perfectly acceptable without. For guests I would have used fresh herbs, but I don't feel like I'm abusing myself by using slightly stale dried herbs. Oh, but it's just a side dish! That doesn't worry me when I'm cooking for myself. Oh, but it's not a whole protein! I had fish yesterday. I'll be fine. Serve it with brown rice if you want.
- Doen jang chi gae. A Korean soup or stew made by simmering dried anchovies in water for a few minutes, removing the anchovies, and throwing in a ball of doen jang and a bunch of vegetables and cooking for a while. I'm sure it's a gross simplification of what a more patient or sophisticated cook would do, but I just threw in daikon and collard greens, and later bean sprouts, jalapeno peppers, and tofu. Served with brown rice. Delicious.
- Plain brown rice and lentils with some kimchi thrown on top for flavor. No leafy greens? Nothing green at all? Relax; you don't need all the nutrients at every meal.
And finally, though it isn't really cooking:
- Amy's Brown Rice & Vegetables Bowl. Processed, packaged, frozen, and quite nutritionally respectable. Maybe x% of the nutritional value was lost during freezing and storage. So what? It's not like I have any vitamin deficiencies. I'll use the time I save to flip through my copy of Hungry Planet.
There's nothing wrong with cooking like this. As other posters have pointed out, johnswamps simply needs to learn to cook.
On an entirely unrelated note, I had an odd realization while writing this post. About my pasta dish above, I wrote: "Pro tip: Cook the lentils, toss the lentils on a plate, and use the same pot for the sauce and broccoli. Voila: two dirty dishes instead of three, which makes a huge difference." Then I thought: I never do that, so why would I write it? Washing one extra pot only takes about a minute. I wrote it because washing pots looms much larger in people's minds than it should. The "huge difference" is 99% psychological. T...
Spaghetti with Italian sausage is cheap to make and lasts 3-4 meals. Stir Fry using frozen chicken breasts, rice, and frozen stir-fry vegetables is also cheap and lasts for a few meals. For my "nice" meal, I usually buy a manager's special (a couple days from being unsaleable) London Broil or a pot roast and have that with potatos and peas. Then there's always the old constant of beans and rice any of the 5000 ways you want to prepare it.
I'm not a ramen fan btw. There are plenty of healthy, cheap alternatives. In Sacramento, this diet costs about $45/week.
Start cooking ramen like normal. When it starts to boil, crack and egg in and stir. The soup will cook the egg, of course. Also peel a few leafs off a head of lettuce, cut them to your preference, and toss those in too. When you are done you've got a meal that has protean and fiber, in addition to your loads of gluten. ;)
1. Fresh pasta cooks faster than dry pasta, is still pretty cheap, and it tastes better too. Definitely an improved taste/time ratio.
2. If you can find a place that sells enormous sandwiches, you can make each half a meal. I often eat half a sandwich at 11 AM and the second half around 3 PM.
3. I think a rice cooker is a worthwhile investment (google Zojirushi).
Essentially, you measure you rice, clean it (as always) then add the water, leave it in the cooker, the the timer you want it to finished, and the cooker does the rest.
Edit: A thought on top of this: Sushi is often a mix of rice, vinegar, salt and sugar, then seaweed and a meat. If you have the rice cooker, most of the time for prep is taken out.
On the other hand, I kind of like all of that excess starch or whatever.
I posted a recipe a while back, and it's still one of my favorites. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=726619
Edit: Rice and lentils are both quite inexpensive if you buy bulk, and they both keep for a long time. The spices are initially more expensive, but they last for a long time as well.
1) Leftovers. I often cook chili, dal, chana masala, or soups in large quantities. I eat them fresh, then from the fridge for a day or two, then freeze the rest. Anything flavorful and goopy works (since textures degrade with freezing and reheating).
2) Rice cooker. Most useful kitchen appliance I've ever owned. They really are fire and forget. I bought mine for $13 at target. It only has one button (maybe Apple should get into this market?). It's pretty forgiving--I don't even measure the water anymore.
3) Whole pre-cooked chickens. They can cost as little as $3 or as much as $10 (for the organic ones). I get 2-4 meals from one chicken depending on its size and what I eat with it. Then I throw the carcass in a pot of water with onions and celery and make soup stock. (Throw away the bones, onions, and celery before making soup).
4) Instant oatmeal is the cheapest good breakfast I know of. I use fancy steel cut organic instant oats with organic milk and the cost is around $0.50 per meal. Adding fresh berries brings it to around $1.50. (That said, my current favorite breakfast is whole wheat bread, scrambled eggs, and sauteed kale or spinach.)
When I cook thicker soups I blend, e.g. with butternut squash soup, I always blend the sauteed onions and garlic, as well as a portion of the squash.