Ask HN: Where do you go for learning about health and well-being?

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Many of the "Ask HN" threads usually hint at work/life balance as well as ways to stay physically fit. Aside from that I've tried to find hobbies to stay active and become interested in. I suppose it can be broken down into fitness and diet (for my purposes) and it can be broken down much further from there.

Care to be a little more specific? I enjoy frequenting /r/fitness and /r/running for their FAQ information which is helpful as well.

Getting into a routine is a big thing (and a thing I struggle with sometimes) with improving health and well-being (imo).

> Getting into a routine is a big thing (and a thing I struggle with sometimes) with improving health and well-being (imo).

I will also add -- at the risk of stating the obvious -- having a community (real or virtual) of people who share like priorities helps as well. It's a lot harder to skip your daily bike ride if you're riding with other people, et cetera.

(An anecdote from my personal life: I have a "race car" and I also race bicycles. The apparent health of the two communities diverges dramatically with age -- so much so that as a relatively young person, I remind myself that I should work extra hard to remain a part of one community, even if it's at the expense of the other...)

I bitch to my son that I need specific info for a specific issue, an hour later I have an email. Then I often blog about it to collate the info.

(If you were hoping for links to sites so you can see it yourself, perhaps you should say that.)

Just subscribe to some health related magazine. You'll learn a lot regarding generic well being, pretty standard things. Then you can choose were and when to dig for more (nutrition, exercise, relaxing, etc.)
4hourworkweek podcast, he has some interesting guests. former us national gymnastics coach, people that competed in ultramarathons, scientist who created drugs similar to steroids.

youtube for workout: athlean-x

joe rogan youtube channel <powerfuljre>, had on Rhonda Patrick (phd in biomedical science) for a few eps (3-4 hr each) talking about vitamins

if you buy vitamins you have to research the specific ingredient (cheap forms of magnesium, calcium, etc that don't get absorbed).

There are many things about health and well-being that are specific to the person. You can find all sorts of ideas (many based loosely on science, others anecdotal) from just about anywhere - books, blogs, youtube, etc.

Really though, you have to find what works for you personally. Take any idea - let's say you decide that you want to know if eating less red meat is good for you. You can read a hundred studies that have conflicting results. Or you can try eating less or none of it yourself and see how you feel. You feel great? Awesome. Now you know! You don't feel any different? Again, that's awesome. Now you know you need to eat a little more red meat.

One example for me was pull-ups (the exercise). I always assumed you had to do them overhand with a medium-wide grip. They never "clicked" with me and I could never feel good doing them. After 10+ years of doing them the same way, I finally saw a video where a guy explained how different people might need to use different grip styles to feel it best. I tried several of the different grips and found what works for me. No study or book would be able to tell me which grip style I should use. It was just something I had to learn for myself.

For something more science-based, check out examine.com[1]. Anytime I read about a supplement or chemical that's supposed to be amazing, I go read examine.com and find out what the studies say.

[1] http://examine.com/supplements/

> One example for me was pull-ups (the exercise). I always assumed you had to do them overhand with a medium-wide grip. They never "clicked" with me and I could never feel good doing them.

This is great thing to point out in general. A lot of advice and widely held "knowledge" is well-meaning but can either be wrong or too strict.

Another one I've come across is people thinking there's no point in trying start running/jogging if they'll have walk most of the way...

As far as choosing the right grip goes I remember hearing something about it in a Tim Ferriss podcast with Coach Sommer. Can't recall what it was exactly, sorry.

You should check it out, two podcasts with Sommer are pretty lengthy but full of nice, actionable tidbits (not that I've used them since I don't remember what they were ;P).

>There are many things about health and well-being that are specific to the person.

Yes this is true, and important.

What is also true is that many people use individuality as an excuse. They can't exercise a certain way, or a certain diet doesn't sit well with them. I hear this daily: "You go to the gym every day? You go whole days with no carbs (or sometimes no food)?" In reality, diet and exercise is hard work (and not fun for most people), and at the end of the day most people aren't willing to put in the effort.

This is why the world is littered with fitness shortcut scams. But you'll find the fittest people have taken no shortcuts.

I think places like HN tend to attract people who like to collect the data first. But we need to worry less about perfect and just get busy getting results. Like you're building software.

>Really though, you have to find what works for you personally. Take any idea - let's say you decide that you want to know if smoking is good for you. You can read a hundred studies that have conflicting results. Or you can try smoking yourself and see how you feel. You feel great? Awesome. Now you know! You don't feel any different? Again, that's awesome. Now you know you need to start smoking a little more!

While I agree with your point to some extent, I feel like the logic you used to arrive there is shaky at best. This is the whole reason scientific studies exist. Smoking makes you feel good in the present but has some disastrous consequences in the near and long term future.

You can find tons of blogs and articles in health magazine, but I think they are mostly a loss of time. I'd rather try to find information provided by health professionals. You can even ask your MD.
This is a very open-ended question. I think you need to let us know you current state.

If you're just starting out, getting a book on working out and eating healthy will get you 80% of the result for 20% the effort.

If you're already experienced, again it depends. Some people have already been mentioned like Tim Ferriss, Dr. Rhonda Patrick, Peter Attia, Dom D'Angostino and many more.

However you need to have the critical thinking to weed out what and how you could safely try some new theory. (say Intermittent Fasting or whatever new theory)

And I think after some time/experience you can go and pick up papers and judge them for yourself.

Finding about nutrition and health online is worse than searching for PHP sample code that doesn't suck.

There's a lot of opinions, some based on facts and research, some based on empirical studies and some based on pure misinterpretation of actual science. You are better of paying a visit to a good nutritionist who can provide you with a tailored diet to suit your body and lifestyle.

(In the UK) "Nutritionist" is not a protected term, anyone can call themselves a nutritionist.

Look for a "dietitian" as this is a protected term.

>You are better of paying a visit to a good nutritionist who can provide you with a tailored diet to suit your body and lifestyle

Unless you have a medical condition that requires a special diet, what exactly is a nutritionist going to tell you that you can't read online? Eating well isn't rocket science. I'd love to see an example of what such a tailored diet would look like.

> what exactly is a nutritionist going to tell you that you can't read online?

Which things to read online?

If u know biochemistry is clear dat healthy diet is anything but fried foods(plugs arteries with oxidated fats, other cancerous toxics from high tempreratres of oil) and refined carbs(spikes insulin, which is not healthy).

Outside that there is personal staff like obviously if u not tolera lactose or gluten avoid that.

Here's another good way to tell, "What're your thoughts on a vegan diet?" Anyone with a fervid opinion on this should be ignored, full stop.
Amazon.com, kindle books.

For fields outside of computing, the best knowledge is still mostly stuck in book form.

A lot of health related problems come down to dysbiosis (imbalance of gut flora). It helps to read up on those. Also look up FMTs and raw milk diet.
I really like Marks Daily Apple [1]. He is big on Paleo and some may find him controversial/extreme. But he does back what he says up with a lot of science (maybe pseudo-science, I'm not sure).

Anyway following his advice has really helped me.

[1]http://www.marksdailyapple.com/

I've been focusing, and doing, this wellness and exercise thing lately. Just reading for the last several years.

Best article, which led me to action, is this http://www.mensjournal.com/magazine/everything-you-know-abou... together with the book The Power of Full Engagement https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0743226755/ref=as_li_tl?ie...

And here are the guys I read regularly (on and off, actually):

Scott Sonnon: http://www.rmaxinternational.com/flowcoach/

Pavel Tsatsouline: http://www.strongfirst.com

Phil Maffetone: https://philmaffetone.com

the guys at GMB: https://gmb.io

and Leo Babauta: http://zenhabits.net

I really like GMB's approach to fitness (emphasis on movement and skill over reps and kilograms lifted) and have paid for a number of their programs. They know what they're talking about, and are incredibly humble about it too. Highly recommended.
I remember reading and really liking that Men's Journal article you referenced. They've changed it since the original (2012), as it included tips from Kevin Brown on how to stay injury free that are really simple and quite excellent.

Here's the graphic that used to be included that some might find useful http://i.imgur.com/qBT7QUX.jpg

I am a big fan of the health & fitness guide that's in stickies on 4chan.org/fit and I'm serious :) Direct link:

http://liamrosen.com/fitness.html

Lots of good stuff on nutrition and training without BS.

Agreed. I have sent this link to a lot of people.
Yeah, and /r/fitness is a pretty solid resource, although you have to check your facts.
Pubmed to see if there are any scientific studies done. There is a lot of crap information on health and well-being on the internet, I prefer to have the information backed up by science.
FWIW, a common criticism of exercise and nutrition science is that they're not actually science and that most published studies in these areas are designed in a way that prevents them from actually testing the stated hypothesis.
Yes but there are enough claims out there you need to get rid of false positives. And some stuff is testable. Intermittent fasting for example has rat studies backing up the claims to an extent - that it extends lifespan and other aspects of health. I haven't seen anything comparable for paleo diet (comparable experiments don't really exist). The theory is plausable, but I have yet to see evidence that its actually beneficial. For that reason I would be more interested a fasting diet rather than a paleo one.
I haven't stayed up to date on the nutrition science stuff much, but there are studies showing that low carb, high fat diets (paleo, essentially) are better than the opposite. Here's a researcher presenting the results of their study as well as discussing several others[1]. Their study had 311 subjects, but most of the other studies the researcher mentions have extremely small sample sizes (one of the common problems with many nutritional science studies).

Exercise science is really kind of a joke, though. The Starting Starting Strength community does an annual review of the year's important exercise science studies. Almost every single one is not capable of actually testing the stated hypothesis. Here's the review from 2012, if you're interested[2].

[1]: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eREuZEdMAVo [2]: http://startingstrength.com/contentfiles/strength_science_20...

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Question is too broad. Health can be exercise, diet, meditation, etc.