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I have to agree. Today may be the day Apple jumped the shark. The use case for a headphone jack is just so broad. And the wireless headset just seems so...useless.

Spent the last hour looking at android phones. There are so many it is overwhelming

I switched to android two years ago, it took a month for me to get used to the interface, but now trying to use iOS is frustrating as it's missing so many features that I depend on in android. So basically you'll have to give it some time if you're switching.

Also stick with the Nexus line, you'll get no bloatware and you'll receive monthly security updates. The one advantage of iOS is that it feels snappier and apps load faster than on my nexus 6p. I blame the jvm ;)

Android doesn't use the JVM.
> Spent the last hour looking at android phones. There are so many it is overwhelming

I get what you mean, there are dozens of manufacturers, each with dozens of SKU's. I wish more companies would learn from apple and limit the number of SKU's available (especially laptop manufacturers).

I've been using android since 1.6, but it's increasingly becoming google integrated OS, I think for my next phone I'll be considering ubuntu and other options.

Apple jumped the shark in 2001 with the iPod. People have been saying that for decades.

There is no use case for the headphone jack that can't be better handled by the lightening connector or bluetooth. Seriously. Want to integrate something from sparkfun? Bluetooth is what you want.

I think it's kinda funny how Apple haters / android zealots always talk about how Apple has lost its way, every time they do something new and significant.

iPod: complaints iPhone: complaints Mac Pro: complaints iPad: complaints and jokes Apple Watch: complaints. All of these have been hugely successful products.

But the day of their announcement people complained about how much they obviously sucked.

"There is no use case for the headphone jack that can't be better handled by the lightening connector or bluetooth."

Using a quality external microphone.

Audio can go both ways over lightening.
Nope. The Lightning port is a purely digital connector. Using an external analog microphone would require some kind of external ADC (i.e., one more bit of kit to misplace).
> There is no use case for the headphone jack that can't be better handled by the lightening connector or bluetooth. Seriously. Want to integrate something from sparkfun? Bluetooth is what you want.

Using your existing 250€ wired headphones while the phone is charging. Doesn't seem that outlandish to me.

Investments are not about personal emotional references.
Investments are whatever you want them to be. It's your money to do with as you please. Some people find meaning in the actual ownership of a company.
Then it's just expensive toy and not an investment. Point of investment is to make profit. You know, there is a ROI term.

And when somebody thinks that staying on powerpc is courage but removing most widely adopted port isn't courage, I think it's just personal grievance

OK, who cares? Maybe the guy is so rich he can afford to spend $300,000 on his personal grievances. Hell I wish I could afford to do something like that. Who are you to tell somebody what they can and can't do with their assets?
> Point of investment is to make profit.

Yes, but not necessarily a profit in terms of dollars.

> Point of investment is to make profit.

You can also invest out of ideological or ethical reasons. For example, I would not for the life of myself invest in a weapons manufacturer even if they had the highest ROI around.

That's true - but if you're also a customer of the company and you notice you're no longer interested in the products they sell, that can inform your investment decision about the company's future performance. It can be an earlier signal than waiting for results announcements.
Yes. But if a company with that has had declining market share and profits for the last few quarters brings our a product that gets panned its a smart move to not hold their shares. Shorting them might not be smart, but removing your exposure is.
If you do not use your emotions when investing you will lose buckets of money.There is a difference between being highly emotional, and using your emotions to guide your intuition. Chances are if he felt upset enough to sell, so will others, and he is wiser (and wealthier) because of it.
Forget about the jack. The real issue here is breaking the tick-tock release cycle.

I believe that a lot of iPhone6 users, that would have otherwise upgraded today, will now wait for iPhone 8 next year.

What we saw today was not iPhone 7, it was something more like iPhone 6s^2

The 7 has completely redesigned internals and a significant performance and battery improvement over my 6 Plus. The fact that the design from the front is very similar doesn't bother me in the slightest.

What were you expecting that would have made it more compelling for iPhone 6 users?

> What were you expecting that would have made it more compelling for iPhone 6 users?

Straight from the expected "8" features: - OLED display - Glass body - Edge-to-edge display - Camera and Touch ID integrated in display - No Home button - Wireless charging

The iPhone 6 is already an awesome phone. There isn't any compelling reason to get the 7 and if you use headphone jack there are some pretty compelling reasons not to upgrade.

And some of the supposed improvements are total BS. "Less visible antenna" Its not exactly visible on ANY smart phone.

Really this is a rant about the headphone jack. I get it.

I use the headphone jack in three different use cases everyday. Very displeased they are doing away with it, a dongle or $160 5 hour headphones is not a solution.

Am I the only one more annoyed that it feels like they're ignoring professional users. To draw on Bernie, "We're tired of hearing about your damned headphone jack!" No updates to Mac Pro, Macbook Pro, or new Thunderbolt display (aside from rumor mill about MBP)
I'm a longtime Apple watcher. Apple is pretty predictable in some things-- and they have a rhythm.

If they had minor Mac introductions they would have just appeared on the store a week ago (they wait until event time to decide what makes the cut in case something has production delays, then they push out the stuff that didn't make the cut the week before the event.)

That they made no mention of the Mac means that they will have another event in early October (they need to be on the market by November and December so early October gives enough breathing room from this event and enough timing to have another event.)

I think if they just had the new Macbook it would have been mentioned today.

That they didn't makes me think that at least three major product announcements will be made in October.

-- Macbook Pro new model I expect. -- Display with built in GPU I think is a distinct possibility -- New Mac of some other kind if they have something significant (eg: not just a revision with the latest intel processor) -- They might have something genuinely new (it still happens.)

I'm certain enough about this that if I could predict Apple's stock movement based on an event, I would be buying options with an early October expiration.

It somehow bothers me a lot that he's referring to his broker as his investment banker.