It's a dollar or two cheaper than DigitalOcean, with hybrid drives instead of SSDs. I don't really see any appeal; DigitalOcean already pitched this years ago (and has done very well)
Not the op of that comment, but in my experience, DH is something to be avoided :) it's been a few years, but still have unpleasant memories of cryptic errors, stability issues, and a clunky control panel.
"Stole" is very misleading. Yes, their billing system had a bug and charged a bunch of customers in error. But DH handled it very well, were very transparent about what happened, refunded all the money (of course), and even went so far as to reimburse people that incurred overdraft fees.
"Even went so far as to reimburse people"!? They directly caused those people to lose money! Of course they reimbursed them; the alternative would have been to reimburse them after a slam dunk legal case.
Dress it up however you like, they took $7 million that wasn't theirs.
I'm fairly satisfied with them, but I only really use static web hosting for low traffic sites. Apparently their mailing list services go down all the time.
Compared to the hosting provider I used over a decade ago, 1and1, Dreamhost is top notch... but I'd like to hear of anything better. I still believe in shared hosting!!!
I've used Dreamhost as my primary registrar for something like 15 years now and generally I've used them for DNS too. Their nameservers and DNS updating is pretty wonky. Really slow to update and admins that insist the update made in the Control Panel has fully propagated across their internal nameservers when it clearly hadn't. Had to wait hours for it to actually propagate out to their real public-facing nameservers a few times. Not worth it, especially when you just need to make a quick change.
I basically quit using Dreamhost for any hosting-related activities other than DNS a long time ago. Even though my shared account is old and so it supposedly has unlimited everything, it's throttled to like 300k (I assume all shared plans are). Also not worth it in the age of the $5/mo VPS.
I flirted with Hover as a registrar for a few names but didn't like it either.
I've started using Route53 for all DNS-related services, including name registration, and I'm happy with it. Wish I didn't have to pay the registration fee again to move all of my domains over to Route53 or I'd be off DH completely by now.
Honestly, it's the network capacity / DDoS. Hence why we are using Google to host the site.
Name-servers? Yeah, we need to change that, but dreamhost was simply the first register we used for the site so we kept it the same. We'll be switching to the same nameservers as our rdns host soon.
> Not dogfooding their own service? I think I'll pass.
The opposite. If they went down no one would be able to view a status page.
It's actually best practice NOT to host your site on your own network.
Just like you should not use an email address @ the same domain you are registering. If your domain had a problem they could not email you at that domain.
You're only in Waterloo, Ontario, right? Perhaps you should price yourself significantly lower than a provider like Digital Ocean that offers more choice.
Upvoted. Thank you for reminding me again about OVH. I was considering DO, but at these prices. I can spin something up and not even think about the cost.
Scaleway (scaleway.com) offers similar pricing to OVH but with more storage. They only have a datacenter in France, though, so if you use the OVH data center in Québec it will not be of much use.
I personally haven't tried them, but they are part of Iliad, the large French telecom / Internet business, so I would expect them to be reliable and to stick around.
Can't really go into details, but I've got plenty of servers at OVH. It's cheap and works, when it works. When it doesn't it doesn't. Don't expect issues to be resolved swiftly or them reacting to your trouble at all. Latest ticket opened today. Average disk I/O is under 1 MB/s for sequential disk read and disk I/O flat lines for tens of seconds every now and then.
If you find this acceptable, no problem. But for some use cases this just won't do. - Disk I/O IOPS & latency really does make difference between many vendors. UpCloud got free trial, try it. You might like it or not. You won't lose anything. - I've gotta be honest. Some of the OVH instances are performing great for the price. But others are as described above.
Thanks for introducing time4vps: I was very surprised I can get a box for $1/month. Going through their website I found that in fact it is being run by IV (a major and reliable long-time local player in VPS/VDS/hosting market), so I wouldn't worry about the quality. Their network and infrastructure is superb.
Quick rundown of alternatives and up/downsides (e.g. everybody has Debian so that's not noteworthy) of which I've personally used the first four:
- DigitalOcean
has FreeBSD
has Fedora
- Vultr
has FreeBSD
has Fedora
- Linode
has Fedora
cheaper than the others
relatively fast CPUs
e.g. Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2680 v3 @ 2.50GHz
UI not as nice as the others'
- Exoscale
has OpenBSD
- CloudScale
only does daily (rather than hourly) billing
This looks interesting, but I'm very hesitant to try a new cloud provider with anything critical. What do people do to gain confidence in a cloud provider, other than wait and see if early adopters report anything breaking?
Also, does this provide access to a management API, to programmatically start, configure, and stop servers?
There's an issue using smaller vendors if your app happens to scale. AWS and the like have a modular approach where you can add things that are bottlenecking your scaling. Like additional DB instance, etc. That's a killer feature if you're stuck with unexpected growth
Can I pay with bitcoin? if not then why? I currently use vultr and it spins up/down instances when my program needs it an automatically pay them with bitcoin
Still need to add credit card details. Can understand why you might want to do that, but it is now a barrier too high for me in order to just try out something which could be interesting.
EDIT: As per the comment below, this does indeed work. I initially tried on my phone and I kept seeing an error to complete the missing fields. On my desktop, it worked. Thanks.
You can get the free credit if you just press ENTER after entering the promo code (without needing to enter the credit card details). It's not very intuitive, but it worked for me.
Looks like they were rebooting or something. All working fine now, got the $5 credit using the promo code LAUNCH (without cc)... Can't wait to spin up an instance and try things out!!
Just a current curiosity: how did you choose a minimum password length of 8 characters? Was there any insight into the decision or did it 'feel right'?
OK: I liked to get up and running in less than 5 minutes.
Feedback/idea: maybe you can improve the flow putting the ssh/key before setting up a server (and maybe even making a before step).
Some twitching when mouse-over the "deploying" status icon after setting up a server. Plus, apparently didn't update the status when it got online, needed to refresh the page.
On the same machine... When deleted got in a weird flow... Was forced to login again and it tried to come back to the machine original URL after it was deleted and gave me a 404.
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[ 4.3 ms ] story [ 175 ms ] threadWe're focusing on some new features which are comparable to Digital Ocean.
Dress it up however you like, they took $7 million that wasn't theirs.
I'm fairly satisfied with them, but I only really use static web hosting for low traffic sites. Apparently their mailing list services go down all the time.
Compared to the hosting provider I used over a decade ago, 1and1, Dreamhost is top notch... but I'd like to hear of anything better. I still believe in shared hosting!!!
I basically quit using Dreamhost for any hosting-related activities other than DNS a long time ago. Even though my shared account is old and so it supposedly has unlimited everything, it's throttled to like 300k (I assume all shared plans are). Also not worth it in the age of the $5/mo VPS.
I flirted with Hover as a registrar for a few names but didn't like it either.
I've started using Route53 for all DNS-related services, including name registration, and I'm happy with it. Wish I didn't have to pay the registration fee again to move all of my domains over to Route53 or I'd be off DH completely by now.
Name-servers? Yeah, we need to change that, but dreamhost was simply the first register we used for the site so we kept it the same. We'll be switching to the same nameservers as our rdns host soon.
The opposite. If they went down no one would be able to view a status page.
It's actually best practice NOT to host your site on your own network.
Just like you should not use an email address @ the same domain you are registering. If your domain had a problem they could not email you at that domain.
That's the only thing that would draw me to another provider
I personally haven't tried them, but they are part of Iliad, the large French telecom / Internet business, so I would expect them to be reliable and to stick around.
I'm in the UK so France is perfect.
Thanks
That's the only thing that would draw me to another provider
If you find this acceptable, no problem. But for some use cases this just won't do. - Disk I/O IOPS & latency really does make difference between many vendors. UpCloud got free trial, try it. You might like it or not. You won't lose anything. - I've gotta be honest. Some of the OVH instances are performing great for the price. But others are as described above.
8.99 Eur/Month || Four cores ; 12 GB RAM ; 300GB Disk 100% SSD
Also, does this provide access to a management API, to programmatically start, configure, and stop servers?
Other than that it doesn't look too different from DigitalOcean, which comes with great support and the confidence of a lot of people using it.
I'm sure you know this though.
PS: Your front page has a tiny bit of horizontal scrolling. Have a look at your CSS.
If any of you want to try the service for free, use the promo code LAUNCH and it'll add credit to your account.
EDIT: As per the comment below, this does indeed work. I initially tried on my phone and I kept seeing an error to complete the missing fields. On my desktop, it worked. Thanks.
Except that after I sign up, I still can't view the plans until I set up my billing details. Meh.
Edit: Even the home page throwing up 502 now.
Is this company a descendant of Kihi Hosting? I used to like Kihi hosting.
You say you are cloud provider... Can I work with containers? Auto scaling?
Feedback/idea: maybe you can improve the flow putting the ssh/key before setting up a server (and maybe even making a before step).
Some twitching when mouse-over the "deploying" status icon after setting up a server. Plus, apparently didn't update the status when it got online, needed to refresh the page.
Problem: Started with Ubuntu 16, successfully ssh'd into it, but couldn't run `apt-get update` and had some script using apt before I even first logged (http://i.imgur.com/exATwTD.png), I think it's this same issue: https://github.com/boxcutter/ubuntu/issues/73
Will post more as it comes or you can reach me on twitter (@aleattorium - DMs are open)