I disagree. If you want an easy path through life, then by all means, go with it.
It applies to any hierarchical community that you can't easily quit. It could very well apply to say totalitarian regime. But large corporation, while sometimes being comparable in bureaucracy (and bullshit and politicking) to totalitarian states, you can quit easily without much effect on your life.
In fact, I think this is the basic advantage of capitalist over communist regime. You can be critical to a corporation, at least to an extent. You can take more risks. The stakes are much lower.
I mean communist regime, like in Eastern Europe, not the ideology. I understand the difference. The point is, in communist regime, it used to be, if you upset some big shot in the communist party, or were just a troublemaker, it went onto your file, it affected your family, and nothing short of emigration could clean that. In other words, there was a central hierarchy in the society that you had to conform to. So the same advice as in the article applies to any such hierarchical regime that affects your entire life.
While corporations in capitalism are also hierarchical, the risk to ruining your life is much less, because you can always change the corporation and start with a clean slate. Your family is not affected (or only very rarely). Even in hierarchical system of corporation, this gives you freedom that is incomparable to being in prison or under totalitarian government.
It's of course up to you if you choose to exercise that freedom.. It may backfire (with bad bosses), but it may also be worth it (with good bosses) and most importantly, it can be lot more fun.
Even though I agree it can be true in some cases, I think the extent with which this happens is incomparable to dictatorships (and especially the ones with state-owned enterprises). In capitalism, while the interests of large corporations are sometimes aligned with the interests of the government, they are still somewhat competing with each other and they form different hierarchies.
> I mean communist regime, like in Eastern Europe, not the ideology.
What makes it a 'communist' regime if it doesn't fit the communist ideology?
> While corporations in capitalism are also hierarchical, the risk to ruining your life is much less, because you can always change the corporation and start with a clean slate.
That must be why there are no jobless, homeless, poor people in America.
> Your family is not affected (or only very rarely).
So how do your children eat if you don't have a job?
> Even in hierarchical system of corporation, this gives you freedom that is incomparable to being in prison or under totalitarian government.
So you're telling working for a corporation isn't the same as being in prison? Wow, much insight.
First of all, I am very critical of capitalism. So the offensive tone of your comment is misplaced.
> What makes it a 'communist' regime if it doesn't fit the communist ideology?
It called itself that way, that's why I used the term, as I explained.
> That must be why there are no jobless, homeless, poor people in America.
The reason why there are such people in the U.S. is not corporations per se, but rather lack of social system (which also comes from your fellow citizens). In Europe, we have corporations too and yet we have less problems like this.
I am not saying corporations are not a problem, but in this case, they are not the primary cause.
> So how do your children eat if you don't have a job?
Unlike communist party, corporation cannot prevent you to have a job. If you have skills which are in demand, you can still work for smaller business or on your own. That's the main difference.
(I don't actually find capitalism strictly more ethically valid, but that's entirely different discussion.)
> So you're telling working for a corporation isn't the same as being in prison? Wow, much insight.
The OP compared it as such. I was just explaining why it isn't.
> So the offensive tone of your comment is misplaced.
What offensive tone? There was no offensive tone, but the fact that you presumed there was says a lot.
> It called itself that way, that's why I used the term, as I explained.
Okay, so not related to what it actually is.
> The reason why there are such people in the U.S. is not corporations per se, but rather lack of social system (which also comes from your fellow citizens). In Europe, we have corporations too and yet we have less problems like this.
Europe has the same problems.
> I am not saying corporations are not a problem, but in this case, they are not the primary cause.
So you are ignoring corporate interests and their influence on society and politics? Clearly corporations and the elite have a huge impact on politics, so ignoring that aspect makes no sense.
> Unlike communist party, corporation cannot prevent you to have a job.
Which communist party? Every party that calls itself communist can prevent you from having a job?
> If you have skills which are in demand, you can still work for smaller business or on your own.
Provided there are smaller businesses which are able to exist alongside the corporation, that they can pay you enough, that you are even able to find them, that you didn't sign a document that prevents you from working for a competitor (which is quite common), etc, etc. Also why can't you work for a smaller company/organization if there is a 'communist' party?
If you're serving your time at a large corporation, it's good advice. If you're trying to accomplish things with a team in a large corporation it's harder to figure out the appropriate application of those rules to daily life in a team.
There is good wisdom here, but the overall theme is something I currently struggle with. The overall theme as I see it is listen more than you talk, be careful and mindful, because everyone is out to get you.
While there is wisdom in this, You can also come across as someone who never shares ideas. Collaboration in business is vital, and it's important to foster an environment where collaboration is open and it's OK to fail and figure out how to do better. If you're a person that hangs on the periphery and never goes out on a limb, it's hard to lead that way or foster an environment of healthy teamwork.
I'm actually interested in this topic, and seeking other perspectives on how to look at this. I've been down voted here to the point that many people seem to think I'm adding nothing to the conversation, or trolling. I'm not. If you disagree with what I'm saying here or think I'm on the wrong track, I'd be interested in hearing where you think my comments went awry.
You appear to be thinking that he is using prison as a metaphor when he is writing about actual prison. I don't know how much idea sharing and healthy teamwork are valued there.
To the extent that this advice about prison applies to business, it applies in an organization where pathological behavior is glorified as "leadership" and everyone else feels like a wage-slave who is being manipulated. In that environment, it applies perfectly for the low-ranking employee without strong networks.
Might depend on the "class" of prison. For example, at a more local level sometimes people are allowed to serve their time by working all week and spending weekends in prison.
I clicked on this article because it is how to get along in groups of men.
While prison likely has a high concentration of pathological personalities, the more serious the company you are in, the more it will have collected people who are attracted by power and prestige - the more probable case that you will be dealing with psychopaths.
The ones I've met aren't actually that smart (handwavy estimate is they seem to top out around IQ120), and usually only have one or two blunt but heavy social tools that make them high functioning manipulators. They are enabled by overly trusting, high IQ but socially unsophisticated engineers who are easily bullied.
With violence largely a non-factor in a psycho's toolkit in the startup world (vs. prison), you can learn to anticipate and manage them.
While it can be fun to have the scariest dog in the park, who's just a sweetie to you at home (because all they understand is power), it raises the question of responsibility. You know it's going to do harm, it's just a matter of time, and the question for a real leader is, at what point do you recognize it for what it is and put it down?
If you have ever been to boarding school, summer camp, or worked in a large institution, the difference to prison seems largely symbolic. Different people and rules, yet still, people and rules.
You're looking at it by statistical comparison, but the difference in capability may not actually be that large. Indeed, it's my perception that latent intelligence is far less important than knowledge gained through learning/experience.
My IQ was measured at 140 in high school, but having met a variety of people whose IQs I know, there are people with 100 IQ whose opinions I would defer to over my own, and people with 160 IQ whose opinions I would pretty much ignore. IQ just isn't a very important indicator of utility.
This list is OK, but I think there's a major omission: be ready to fight. If you are ever probed for weakness, you must make it clear that you will not be easy to victimize. You don't have to win, but you have to fight and make it as difficult as you can. It doesn't matter at all what the fight is over. Someone took a scoop of your mashed potatoes? Fight them. Make them regret it as much as you can.
I feel so sorry for anyone who goes into prison who does not understand this.
Is this from your own experience or just what you believe to be true? I'm not trying to be rude, but that piece of advice holds much more weight coming from someone that has actually served time.
It's not rude. You're absolutely right. Somehow, despite my best efforts, I never went to prison.
But I was obsessed about the possibility for a while, and read a lot of books. The one that made the biggest impression on me was _The Hot House: Life Inside Leavenworth Prison_. In that book, a lifer named Carl Bowles describes why he doesn't have to worry very much, despite being small (like me). Paraphrasing, it was because he never let there be any doubt in anyone's mind that if they tried to hurt him, he'd respond very violently.
That book described in many different ways the importance of willingness to fight in prison. People due for release in a few months would fight and get time added to their sentences for fear of what would happen if they didn't fight.
I have a friend who served 5 years for some chronic reckless DUIs before he got sober. He is, quite literally, one of the most gentle souls I've ever met. He's a pretty small guy, but tough as nails (still works 12+ hours a day running his own construction company doing manual labor)
After about 30 days in, he was on the phone when a guy come up to him and started poking him in the back, "Come on man, get off the phone." And started to get more aggressive, "Fuck you, fucker, get off the fucking phone", tapping him more insistently, spitting on him, etc. He turned around and realized about 30 people were watching the interaction.
He calmly said, "Don't ever fucking touch me while I'm on the phone" and then proceeded to crack open the guy's head with the phone receiver and break his jaw with it. Got some time added to his sentence, but no one ever fucked with him from that day forward.
He said that he regrets greatly that he had to hurt the guy so bad, but he is 100% convinced that if he let such behavior pass without violent retaliation, his life would have been made a living hell from that day on.
His advice, paraphrased, "No matter what you do there will be a moment where you have to show weakness or strength. If you show weakness, you will be tagged as weak and nothing you do from then out will change that. It will be a terrible moment, but if you show overwhelming force and violence in that moment, the rest of your days will be able to be peaceful."
Indeed, you don't have to win any fights in prison you just have to be willing to fight. This is usually instigated by The Punk Test, where somebody will try to incrementally take advantage of you, by either saying something and seeing if you let it slide, then later bumping into you, finally taking your stuff, ect. If you don't fight typically you will be kicked out of that unit and forced to go to another, where your reputation will of course travel with you and they will make your life hell there as well.
Article could have said something about how to avoid needless fights (prob in the book I assume). For example, being in the yard and some guy is looking to start a fight. "What are you looking at?" of course, the wrong answer is "Nothing" as the reply will be "So I'm nothing goof?". The right answer is "Sun in my eyes, no disrespect". You both walk away as respect is maintained and dude trying to bait you into a fight figures out you aren't an easy mark and goes to harass somebody else.
There is also a saying "Do your own time not somebody elses". This means somebody approaches you and says "Hey, do you know what <insert name> said about you?". This guy is trying to get you to fight somebody for him. Your answer can only be "Let him say that to my face" and leave it at that. In general you never talk about other inmates when they are not around, part of the whole mind your own business mantra of prison.
Never go to the TV area if one exists. Fights always happen here over who gets to watch what, and often set ups happen where one group of inmates will be attacked by a rival group and you don't want to be caught in the middle while it all kicks off.
Finally, do not complain about the food or anything else out loud, or ever tell anybody when you are getting released. Guys who brag how they only have a few months left or are getting out the next week will have some guy who's doing decades or life immediately smash them because they don't want to be reminded of how much time they have. There will also be guys who simply want to mess with your release date and try to cause trouble because they can.
If you want to impress your fellow inmates, screw the system as much as possible like demanding a Kosher meal (often it's better quality food), orchestrating transfers, finding ways to weasel out of bad work detail. Anything you can figure out that gets one over on the system is respected.
tl;dr generally prison is not hollywood unless you're in a gang or owe money to drug dealers. For the most part you will just be doing time and bored stiff so get somebody to mail you TAOCP to do by hand, I wish I had that instead of the dismal prison library. Keep eyes forward, look at people's hands who are approaching you not their eyes.
No real time, some months at a pretrial, some months at a state prison then transferred to BOP and deported.
BOP I was constantly transferred around, for unknown reasons. Sometimes after a week, three weeks, or a few days (same with my friends who did time in federal, who knows why). Everytime, somebody would try the "Do you know what that guy said about you?" trick. Later I find out they had a certain amount of days to fight somebody to squash some beef they had or be kicked off that unit by the other inmates, so tried to get me to fight for them instead, hoping the other guy gets adseg for fighting me. I got so used to this set up that whenever some guy approached me and said "Hey, let's walk together to chow" the morning after I arrived at a new unit and lined up for count, I immediately knew he was going to ask me to fight somebody for him.
I have always thought a good book (probably a novelty but whatever) would be how to prepare for prison. For example what sort of physical training + psychological training + diet would be optimal. What sort of defense training would you study. Where would you put some if any remaining assets.
For example before going you might want to gain as much weight as possible (who cares about looking attractive). Generally more weight will increase strength regardless if it is fat (although muscle would be better). Or maybe gaining a lot of weight is a bad idea... don't know but I am curious.
This seems to cover a small part of it. Also I don't know much about prison but I assume inmates have access to weights (or maybe that is just a hollywood stereotype that I have picked up). I suppose though while you are in jail if you aren't bailed out you can do weightless training.
I would imagine forearm training would be critical since grappling is so important in self defense. This could be tricky if there are no bars to hang from.
I'm thinking the best training is probably fairly similar to football training... get big, fast, and strong. I'm just not sure gymnastic like training will do that (particularly as you gain weight that sort of training becomes fairly difficult).
Thus from my limited knowledge... I would probably do a ton of power cleans, power presses, and sand bag grabbing. Maybe some farmer walks. Probably no dead lifts while in prison though since that would just sap you and leave you weak for attacks. Maybe deadlifts prior to going in.
No, weights were banned in American prisons years ago.
If you can do one-arm pressups and pullups - which Wade's training leads up to - you will be stronger than 99% of people who train with weights anyway.
Ahh.. figured it was hollywood bull$hit. It seems like every movie still has dudes lifting weights in a court yard.
I have no doubt about doing one arm pullups making you strong. I just recently accomplished this myself but I had to loose a ton of weight to do so (from 198 -> 168). When I lost the weight I got a lot weaker and less powerful (albeit I certainly look better). I have feeling my old fat self could take more physical abuse.
Some state prisons still allow weight stacks, they post their weight lifting competitions on youtube all the time (illegally, not sure how prisoners get phones).
Here's some guy in a no weight stack prison, with a contraband phone showing off his exercise routine (and pics of the homemade water weights) https://youtu.be/WLmDkcb6JQE
Beating 99% of people who weight train with modified bodyweight exercises is definitely a stretch.
A pushup is equivalent to benching roughly 64% of your body weight. So if we say one armed is similar to benching 128% of your bodyweight... That puts a person in the intermediate level of weight training.
It's a fact of training that you get what you train for. A huge physique may be intimidating but the sort of capability you would need to survive a violent environment is that of a soldier/marine or a boxer or MMA fighter - and you can develop that far quicker, and without access to good nutrition.
A one handed pushup is much harder than that because of the great difficulty in keeping your body stable. Somebody who can bench twice their bodyweight might still fail a one handed pushup if they haven't trained for it.
Exactly. The pressup engages the entire anterior chain. And no-one cares about anyone's bench press 1RM in a fight or indeed any situation outside of the gym - it just isn't a useful kind of strength.
Behind Bars: Surviving Prison, by Jeffrey Ian Ross, comes pretty close, though it focuses more on adjusting to the institutional rules and social norms of prison culture.
(I did buy this as novelty, not because I was expecting to go to prison :)
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/behind-bars-phd-jef-ross-jef...
There are "Prison Consultants" that exist for this. Besides survival their main avenue of expertise is how to influence the decision on where you will be sent and/or transfer to your prison of choice.
Madoff hired a consultant which is why he's teaching economics classes at a minimum security trustee camp right now instead of letting the system just send him anywhere.
>I have always thought a good book (probably a novelty but whatever) would be how to prepare for prison. For example what sort of physical training + psychological training + diet would be optimal. What sort of defense training would you study. Where would you put some if any remaining assets.
Yeah, but thieves and burglars would just steal it.
Unfortunately, if you're stuck in a pathologic environment, this advice sounds pretty applicable.
I've worked for a BigCo where I would definitely recommend this, and some public government sector offices here in Uruguay are unbelievable - they unfortunately combine decent wages, a special cannot-get-fired provision (you have to do something absurdly bad such as murder) and some extremely pathological behavior from petty leaders.
Lots of people get stuck there, they cannot enter the private sector anymore and they need to "put in time" to be able to retire.
Slightly off-topic, but a massive US prison strike is currently taking place, to protest forced labor and inhumane conditions[0], and most of us probably haven't even heard about it.
This is very problematic, since many of us also know how unjust the US justice system is, especially with the drug war and all, and without public awareness the strikes will accomplish a lot less than they ought to.
So if it's not already in your news feeds, google "prison strike" or just start with the Intercept piece.
From outside the US, it's a little disturbing to see these kinds of articles crop up occasionally. That you have enough people going into prison that these articles are almost a 'general life tips' kind of thing.
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In fact, I think this is the basic advantage of capitalist over communist regime. You can be critical to a corporation, at least to an extent. You can take more risks. The stakes are much lower.
While corporations in capitalism are also hierarchical, the risk to ruining your life is much less, because you can always change the corporation and start with a clean slate. Your family is not affected (or only very rarely). Even in hierarchical system of corporation, this gives you freedom that is incomparable to being in prison or under totalitarian government.
It's of course up to you if you choose to exercise that freedom.. It may backfire (with bad bosses), but it may also be worth it (with good bosses) and most importantly, it can be lot more fun.
In the UK in the 1960s and 1970s upsetting a large company could get you investigated by MI5 and you could go on their files.
See: The Black Door: Spies, Secret Intelligence and British Prime Ministers by Richard Aldrich & Rory Cormac
[Mind you I'd rather have the attention of the Security Service than the Stasi - but the behaviour is similar, treating dissent as insurrection].
That's discrimination. Luckily, they solved the problem in a clever way: now we are all in their files.
What makes it a 'communist' regime if it doesn't fit the communist ideology?
> While corporations in capitalism are also hierarchical, the risk to ruining your life is much less, because you can always change the corporation and start with a clean slate.
That must be why there are no jobless, homeless, poor people in America.
> Your family is not affected (or only very rarely).
So how do your children eat if you don't have a job?
> Even in hierarchical system of corporation, this gives you freedom that is incomparable to being in prison or under totalitarian government.
So you're telling working for a corporation isn't the same as being in prison? Wow, much insight.
> What makes it a 'communist' regime if it doesn't fit the communist ideology?
It called itself that way, that's why I used the term, as I explained.
> That must be why there are no jobless, homeless, poor people in America.
The reason why there are such people in the U.S. is not corporations per se, but rather lack of social system (which also comes from your fellow citizens). In Europe, we have corporations too and yet we have less problems like this.
I am not saying corporations are not a problem, but in this case, they are not the primary cause.
> So how do your children eat if you don't have a job?
Unlike communist party, corporation cannot prevent you to have a job. If you have skills which are in demand, you can still work for smaller business or on your own. That's the main difference.
(I don't actually find capitalism strictly more ethically valid, but that's entirely different discussion.)
> So you're telling working for a corporation isn't the same as being in prison? Wow, much insight.
The OP compared it as such. I was just explaining why it isn't.
What offensive tone? There was no offensive tone, but the fact that you presumed there was says a lot.
> It called itself that way, that's why I used the term, as I explained.
Okay, so not related to what it actually is.
> The reason why there are such people in the U.S. is not corporations per se, but rather lack of social system (which also comes from your fellow citizens). In Europe, we have corporations too and yet we have less problems like this.
Europe has the same problems.
> I am not saying corporations are not a problem, but in this case, they are not the primary cause.
So you are ignoring corporate interests and their influence on society and politics? Clearly corporations and the elite have a huge impact on politics, so ignoring that aspect makes no sense.
> Unlike communist party, corporation cannot prevent you to have a job.
Which communist party? Every party that calls itself communist can prevent you from having a job?
> If you have skills which are in demand, you can still work for smaller business or on your own.
Provided there are smaller businesses which are able to exist alongside the corporation, that they can pay you enough, that you are even able to find them, that you didn't sign a document that prevents you from working for a competitor (which is quite common), etc, etc. Also why can't you work for a smaller company/organization if there is a 'communist' party?
While there is wisdom in this, You can also come across as someone who never shares ideas. Collaboration in business is vital, and it's important to foster an environment where collaboration is open and it's OK to fail and figure out how to do better. If you're a person that hangs on the periphery and never goes out on a limb, it's hard to lead that way or foster an environment of healthy teamwork.
While prison likely has a high concentration of pathological personalities, the more serious the company you are in, the more it will have collected people who are attracted by power and prestige - the more probable case that you will be dealing with psychopaths.
The ones I've met aren't actually that smart (handwavy estimate is they seem to top out around IQ120), and usually only have one or two blunt but heavy social tools that make them high functioning manipulators. They are enabled by overly trusting, high IQ but socially unsophisticated engineers who are easily bullied.
With violence largely a non-factor in a psycho's toolkit in the startup world (vs. prison), you can learn to anticipate and manage them.
While it can be fun to have the scariest dog in the park, who's just a sweetie to you at home (because all they understand is power), it raises the question of responsibility. You know it's going to do harm, it's just a matter of time, and the question for a real leader is, at what point do you recognize it for what it is and put it down?
If you have ever been to boarding school, summer camp, or worked in a large institution, the difference to prison seems largely symbolic. Different people and rules, yet still, people and rules.
My IQ was measured at 140 in high school, but having met a variety of people whose IQs I know, there are people with 100 IQ whose opinions I would defer to over my own, and people with 160 IQ whose opinions I would pretty much ignore. IQ just isn't a very important indicator of utility.
Stay aloof and paranoid?
Ah... ever think you've stared too long into the abyss, perhaps?
The military is another good example of this.
I feel so sorry for anyone who goes into prison who does not understand this.
But I was obsessed about the possibility for a while, and read a lot of books. The one that made the biggest impression on me was _The Hot House: Life Inside Leavenworth Prison_. In that book, a lifer named Carl Bowles describes why he doesn't have to worry very much, despite being small (like me). Paraphrasing, it was because he never let there be any doubt in anyone's mind that if they tried to hurt him, he'd respond very violently.
That book described in many different ways the importance of willingness to fight in prison. People due for release in a few months would fight and get time added to their sentences for fear of what would happen if they didn't fight.
After about 30 days in, he was on the phone when a guy come up to him and started poking him in the back, "Come on man, get off the phone." And started to get more aggressive, "Fuck you, fucker, get off the fucking phone", tapping him more insistently, spitting on him, etc. He turned around and realized about 30 people were watching the interaction.
He calmly said, "Don't ever fucking touch me while I'm on the phone" and then proceeded to crack open the guy's head with the phone receiver and break his jaw with it. Got some time added to his sentence, but no one ever fucked with him from that day forward.
He said that he regrets greatly that he had to hurt the guy so bad, but he is 100% convinced that if he let such behavior pass without violent retaliation, his life would have been made a living hell from that day on.
His advice, paraphrased, "No matter what you do there will be a moment where you have to show weakness or strength. If you show weakness, you will be tagged as weak and nothing you do from then out will change that. It will be a terrible moment, but if you show overwhelming force and violence in that moment, the rest of your days will be able to be peaceful."
Prison is terrifying (and unneccesary).
Article could have said something about how to avoid needless fights (prob in the book I assume). For example, being in the yard and some guy is looking to start a fight. "What are you looking at?" of course, the wrong answer is "Nothing" as the reply will be "So I'm nothing goof?". The right answer is "Sun in my eyes, no disrespect". You both walk away as respect is maintained and dude trying to bait you into a fight figures out you aren't an easy mark and goes to harass somebody else.
There is also a saying "Do your own time not somebody elses". This means somebody approaches you and says "Hey, do you know what <insert name> said about you?". This guy is trying to get you to fight somebody for him. Your answer can only be "Let him say that to my face" and leave it at that. In general you never talk about other inmates when they are not around, part of the whole mind your own business mantra of prison.
Never go to the TV area if one exists. Fights always happen here over who gets to watch what, and often set ups happen where one group of inmates will be attacked by a rival group and you don't want to be caught in the middle while it all kicks off.
Finally, do not complain about the food or anything else out loud, or ever tell anybody when you are getting released. Guys who brag how they only have a few months left or are getting out the next week will have some guy who's doing decades or life immediately smash them because they don't want to be reminded of how much time they have. There will also be guys who simply want to mess with your release date and try to cause trouble because they can.
If you want to impress your fellow inmates, screw the system as much as possible like demanding a Kosher meal (often it's better quality food), orchestrating transfers, finding ways to weasel out of bad work detail. Anything you can figure out that gets one over on the system is respected.
tl;dr generally prison is not hollywood unless you're in a gang or owe money to drug dealers. For the most part you will just be doing time and bored stiff so get somebody to mail you TAOCP to do by hand, I wish I had that instead of the dismal prison library. Keep eyes forward, look at people's hands who are approaching you not their eyes.
BOP I was constantly transferred around, for unknown reasons. Sometimes after a week, three weeks, or a few days (same with my friends who did time in federal, who knows why). Everytime, somebody would try the "Do you know what that guy said about you?" trick. Later I find out they had a certain amount of days to fight somebody to squash some beef they had or be kicked off that unit by the other inmates, so tried to get me to fight for them instead, hoping the other guy gets adseg for fighting me. I got so used to this set up that whenever some guy approached me and said "Hey, let's walk together to chow" the morning after I arrived at a new unit and lined up for count, I immediately knew he was going to ask me to fight somebody for him.
This reminds me of Marcellin College, the boy's high school I went to for a couple of years in Australia.
For example before going you might want to gain as much weight as possible (who cares about looking attractive). Generally more weight will increase strength regardless if it is fat (although muscle would be better). Or maybe gaining a lot of weight is a bad idea... don't know but I am curious.
I would imagine forearm training would be critical since grappling is so important in self defense. This could be tricky if there are no bars to hang from.
I'm thinking the best training is probably fairly similar to football training... get big, fast, and strong. I'm just not sure gymnastic like training will do that (particularly as you gain weight that sort of training becomes fairly difficult).
Thus from my limited knowledge... I would probably do a ton of power cleans, power presses, and sand bag grabbing. Maybe some farmer walks. Probably no dead lifts while in prison though since that would just sap you and leave you weak for attacks. Maybe deadlifts prior to going in.
If you can do one-arm pressups and pullups - which Wade's training leads up to - you will be stronger than 99% of people who train with weights anyway.
I have no doubt about doing one arm pullups making you strong. I just recently accomplished this myself but I had to loose a ton of weight to do so (from 198 -> 168). When I lost the weight I got a lot weaker and less powerful (albeit I certainly look better). I have feeling my old fat self could take more physical abuse.
Here's some guy in a no weight stack prison, with a contraband phone showing off his exercise routine (and pics of the homemade water weights) https://youtu.be/WLmDkcb6JQE
From guards making a quick buck?
Inmates just made their own weights using a few layers of trash bags filled with water.
Prisons are full of very clever hacks borne by necessity.
It had from DIY tatoo kits to radios and all kinds of stuff done with whatever was available.
(Hmm, could be related to this: http://temporaryservices.org/served/projects-by-name/prisone... ).
A pushup is equivalent to benching roughly 64% of your body weight. So if we say one armed is similar to benching 128% of your bodyweight... That puts a person in the intermediate level of weight training.
http://www.exrx.net/Testing/WeightLifting/BenchStandards.htm...
in which population?
Madoff hired a consultant which is why he's teaching economics classes at a minimum security trustee camp right now instead of letting the system just send him anywhere.
Yeah, but thieves and burglars would just steal it.
Or are we?
I've worked for a BigCo where I would definitely recommend this, and some public government sector offices here in Uruguay are unbelievable - they unfortunately combine decent wages, a special cannot-get-fired provision (you have to do something absurdly bad such as murder) and some extremely pathological behavior from petty leaders.
Lots of people get stuck there, they cannot enter the private sector anymore and they need to "put in time" to be able to retire.
This is very problematic, since many of us also know how unjust the US justice system is, especially with the drug war and all, and without public awareness the strikes will accomplish a lot less than they ought to.
So if it's not already in your news feeds, google "prison strike" or just start with the Intercept piece.
[0]https://theintercept.com/2016/09/16/the-largest-prison-strik...