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Ask HN: The Walled Garden vs the Bazaar - is Apple dead?

4 points by SeamusBrady ↗ HN
Proprietary Unix vs the Bazaar (Linux): the Bazaar wins.

Proprietary APIs Browsers vs the Bazaar (Open Web Standards): the Bazaar wins.

Proprietary Web Servers vs the Bazaar (Apache): the Bazaar wins.

In many cases, the more open, democratic Bazaar has won against proprietary closed systems.

Apple seems to be turning their mobile platforms into proprietary closed Walled Gardens.

Has this achieved a short term increase in quality (allegedly) but consigned Apple to long term failure?

The Bazaar seems to win nearly all the time.

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verec
No. All the "Bazaar" is is "Pop Culture". Lack of taste or long term effort, immediate satisfaction and everything else needed to boost your own little ego irrespective of the value you bring (or not) to the world.

Quit complaining, quit whining! Start your very own Apple, and then come back and tell us about the walls and what not.

stonemetal
Proprietary Unix software

Proprietary APIs Browsers software

Proprietary Web Servers software

mobile platforms hardware

You seem to have forgotten Apple is a hardware company and it will use OSS whenever it is seen as an advantage. Right now Closed software helps prevent competitors so that is the road they travel.

bgnm2000
Upon reading the title, I thought to myself, "not a chance, this person is nuts."

That said, I would say it will certainly cause problems for apple down the road, when window mobile 7 is everywhere - and android has a better UX.

dzlobin
Are you high? Android has a better ux??

Android can be more open, and faster and everything else, but they will never get the upper hand on Apples UI design and UX.

bgnm2000
Thanks man, I said WHEN. Android's UX is disgusting right now, give it a few years.
dzlobin
Yeah, apple is really dead. They just released a huge product that the average consumer is crazy about. They will make even more billions than they usually do, and they are "dead". Face it, the hacker crowd will always have a soft spot for android and some of us will be die hard android fans, but as far as apple vs android goes, apple is winning and is head and shoulders above this competition.

At least for now

SeamusBrady
OK, the title is slightly melodramatic :)

I agree that Apple are doing well now, but that is not the issue. I think they may have damaged their long term prospects, which in IT is the next 5 years.