Ask HN: What do you use to take notes?

68 points by somecallitblues ↗ HN
I use Notational Velocity for my notes and I love the ease of use but I'd like something that will allow me to share a note with a client and also has code highlighting. And image uploads. I want to be able to upload screenshots. I looked around but can't find anything that's a mix of Evernote, Wunderlist and GitHub Gists. What do you HN people recommend?

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I use Todoist for notes that are potential tasks. Some times the line can be blurry so I have to regularly clean my Todoist tasks.

For the rest I use Google Keep which I've found to be quite handy. Nice UI and it's available everywhere. I've already sold my soul to Google so why not let them get my notes as well.

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To answer the question in the title, much as I love computers, nothing beats the flexibility and carefree nature of paper. I can draw diagrams, block out pseudocode, etc.

I've thought about maybe a Surface would be nice for that, but haven't really tried it.

I think you'll have best luck with multiple tools like you're doing now.

+1 this. The process of taking notes itself, using pen and paper, helps focuz me... even and especially if I'm just doodling. No matter what app I try, taking notes on a comouter or mobile device is distracting at best.

That said,, if I must take notes (for action items during a meeting, etc.) I'll use notion

Yeah, I'm frequently surprised I'm able to get anything done on computers at all. (only half kidding)
Were all gonna be using are smart tones in the future only no paper or desktops etc.

You can't make this shit up, it's to good.

I've tried the surface for note taking. It was a lovely experience, especially the pen in OneNote, but nothing beats paper. Lighter, thinner, more flexible, cheap, no lag, doesn't need batteries etc. No vendor lock in.

Surface / pen only had the edge in that you can mark up a doc and send it to someone a lot faster than printing, marking and scanning

However, I'm often faster at writing with a keyboard, and I use onenote in text only mode every day

Also, the only reasons I'd need backups for paper documents are disasters that would also ruin my drives
Paper over the surface. The surface has a noticeable lag when writing and OneNote keeps putting frames around everything, ruining the open feel you'd normally get with freeform writing.

My process is a good notebook and fountain pen for deep thinking, and org mode for planning and research.

Short lived notes? Anything that can take text input. vim, text edit, stickies (the mac app), pen & paper, whatever is on hand.

Long term notes? Evernote - though I'm not happy with them. Just haven't found a replacement yet.

Workflowy. It's the lowest-friction tool I have used for notes and ideas. Using tags, it can be used as a great hierarchical project/task management system.

I still use Evernote for quick storage and access of images, pdfs and long-form notes as the search is great. However, their tag/notebook organisation system has annoying redundencies and is clunky in places. I would love to bin it but can't find a suitable alternative. Bear is promising but not quite there. Apple notes doesn't allow linking between notes.

Workflowy has organized my life and brought some order to my brain in a way that is invaluable to me. If only the put a bit more effort into the product... literally nothing has changed in the past 3 years. not a single feature! I could excuse them if the mobile apps were good enough, but that is not the case at all.
You are right about the mobile apps... I am hoping that competition from dynalist will force them to up their game.
All they need to make the mobile app perfect, IMHO, is the ability to add bookmarks to your home screen for various sections in the hierarchy.
It looks great, but what inevitably drives me away from solutions like that is that sooner or later I want to do something they don't support or are too inefficient at, feel constrained, use something else and suddenly I have notes split across multiple applications.
Google Keep matches most of your requirements and it's what I use personally.

It makes it really easy to tag, organize, share and with the archive feature you can get todo list functionality.

Google's nasty habit of dropping projects that are not core keeps me from trying and using a lot of their stuff.
I thought the same way, but luckily Keep has a way to export everything to HTML.

In the worst case scenario you could export all of your notes to an easy to read format and start importing it to a new system.

I love Google Keep but I'm really scared that they're going to kill it in 1-2 years. Don't think it's something a lot of people (in Google scale) use.

I know it shouldn't affect me know as I could probably transfer notes then, but it still bothers me..

I use Google Keep for short notes and TOTOs. It's handy and you can access on any device.
Tried many different ways, usually falling back to using pen and paper. However, it limited me in the way that I couldn't search and sometimes I forgot my notebook, leading to me not finding what I wanted.

So in the end I wrote my own static wiki generator (QuickWiki: https://github.com/VictorBjelkholm/quickwiki). It basically takes a folder full of markdown files, automatic links to other pages and generates a static website (that looks something like this: https://victorbjelkholm.github.io/quickwiki/home/ )

flat txt file + Gedit for view and edition + Cloudstation for sync with NAS and other computers or mobiles.
Somebody's going to mention org-mode and it may as well be me. HTML export with syntax highlighting is a nice thing to have, and images linked to the document work like they should. Having code blocks be executable is a bonus, especially for showing technically minded clients or higher-ups exactly how their intentions were translated into reality.

Evernote it is not: The sharing story is pretty BYOB, in that what you get out is an HTML (or whatever other format) document, and sharing it, whether readonly or not, is on you. There's document publishing functionality, but it requires some setup and an upstream host that can take files via FTP/SFTP/etc. Same goes for syncing, if that's something you want; Dropbox works for me, and there are many alternatives.

Your use case sounds like it would require some tooling around org-mode to achieve. If you want something that does what you need straight out of the box, it probably won't make you happy. But you asked what we use to take notes, and for me that's org-mode; the things it does well are many, some of them unique in my experience, and that makes it worth my while to invest effort in adding the occasional capability I want which doesn't exist by default.

(And for meetings where people are touchy about laptops, or realtime capture on a call, I have a clipboard and a paper tablet. But it's ephemeral; anything needing kept goes straight into an org file at the earliest opportunity.)

Org mode enables you to "program" a document which is really amazing. It's closer to python notebooks than a note taking device. You need real discipline to keep it readable.

Long term Org mode needs a rethink to more fully realized programming + writing.

Short term it needs some work on document sharing, mobile editing, all that.

I use Org mode for large docs, google docs for quick notes, google sheets for TODOs, pad/pen google photos for quick notes and recording of those notes.

This is a mess really.

> It's closer to python notebooks than a note taking device.

It's both, and not limited to Python. What mix of capabilities you use in a given document is up to you.

I use Google Keep. It's simple and has an acceptable Android app and web interface. It also accomodates image notes.

I don't think you'll find a notes application that has code highlighting, but perhaps I'm wrong...

Google Keep user here as well. It has few things that makes it perfectly fit into what I need:

- simple to do lists

- create notes with the phone's camera (I usually do this when taking a photo of a whiteboard)

- audio recording and transcribing: I can just say my note and Google Keep will make a text out of it with an attached audio recording

- sharing: this makes my life sooo much easier. I have one note taking app I can use for business, for sharing shopping lists with my wife, house chores with my kids, etc. When Google Keep came out first it was way too simple, but I can hardly imagine my life these days without it.

I'd recommend ZimWiki http://www.zim-wiki.org/ - a desktop app. Keep can't keep up with lots of notes :-)

ZW is speedy, portable, and extendable.

I actually use ZimWiki as well, but more as a personal blog for technical stuff to refer back to, not as a day-to-day notes app.
I would use this, but this seems like exactly the kind of product that Google gets bored with and discontinues for no reason. I'm tired of getting burned by Google like this, they do it all the time.
Quiver, Paper (Dropbox), Tiddlywiki all have syntax highlighting; of them Quiver, which uses the Ace code editor, has highlighting for by far the most languages--even Elixir.
Paper in big binder.

I've tried for very long to find a good electronic solution. Up to and including writing my own wiki with various extensions customised to my diting style, and hunting around for every note taking app under the sun.

The problem, I find, is that nothing beats the flexibility of being able to take out multiple sheets of paper and move them around, annotate them, put them back in. It creates a flexibility in workflow no tool I've tried have managed to match.

The physical presence of the paper also makes it much easier to avoid forgetting a page exists.

I'm not happy with it, but I keep coming back to it after each desperate attempt at making something else work better.

I use a three ring binder with thick grid paper and awesome Japanese notepad with grids (http://www.jetpens.com/Midori-MD-Notebook-A5-Grid/pd/13607).

Pens are an addicting technology. Top 5 list of various pens. https://www.penaddict.com/top-5-pens/ I also buy a cool pencil case (http://www.jetpens.com/Kokuyo-Pencil-Cases/ct/2929)

My only difference is when I was in graduate student I used OneNote with 2003 Tablet PC (Hand writing with the pen) and a external microphone. The was the single greatest tool ever created for a student. The audio was synced with your hand written notes or typed notes. I then had the college purchase a license for every student at my University I worked at OneNote and take a 1 hour class with me and a had microphones available at the Book Store. No one ever used the microphone. I got the highest review marks from students for all our Freshmen prep classes and a ton of interaction and people stopping at my office to get help but they all dropped it for one reason or another. If only computers built in a classroom position microphone in the lid of a laptop.

I highly suggest fountain pens, I like Lamy. I feel like I can write a lot more without fatigue. You don't have to press as hard. Also, if you're not a person that loses pens they end up being cheaper.

I also found that A5 grid paper on Amazon for a little cheaper[1]. But I'm curious how well the binding holds up. Because if it holds well it'd be a great switch for me.

[1] https://www.amazon.com/Midori-MD-Notebook-Grid-Paper/dp/B009...

I do all my thinking on paper, but I have a large blocker at the moment: indexing my notes. Have you found a good solution for this?
I don't. I transfer long-lasting notes to a wiki or relevant documentation. I on purpose try to integrate notes into something existing, and/or archive them regularly
I reverted to just taking pictures of my notes. I then put them into Google Docs for storage and put on tags if I need them for storage. (I use to use Evernote for storing my pictures of my notes but ...)
I have a scanner with a feeder, so I use that sometimes, but or anything that's meant to last, like documentation for a project, I tend to type it in.

More ephemeral things like todo lists, I only scan if I have a reason to want to keept it.

That is the nice thing about taking a picture and just sharing it to Google Drive takes 5 seconds
My non-novel solution - number every other page, and keep a few pages up in the front as an index. Topic on the left, and a list of page numbers on the right. Requires some effort to maintain, but it seems to work pretty well for me. Familiarity with the index pages counters the need for any sorting.
Rather than leaving pages blank up front (a guestimate), I fill my index up from the back. Literally the last page is the first page of the index and I work towards the front from there. No risk of running out of room in the index, or finding that I didn't need 5 pages when 2 would have done.
I've run into the same problem before. I found that Bullet Journals have a good system for this. And it is applicable to any notebook you have. (Similar suggestion was made earlier in the comments.) Link: http://bulletjournal.com/
I have a fat notebook with lots of pages. I write an index in the back, with a colored "tab" on the edge of the page corresponding with that index item. Any time I make a note about that item - call it "blog post ideas" for example - I mark the edge of the page my note is on with the corresponding index item.

I don't think I'm doing a good job of explaining this, I'll see if I can find an example of this online and link it.

Edit: I did a quick google search and found an example that's similar to what I'm doing. This works well for me: http://lifehacker.com/mark-page-line-edges-to-organize-your-...

I used to use Apple notes but lost so much data I try not to anymore. Evernote is my main notepad these days but I still use apple notes...
How did you lose data with Apple Notes? I've had conflicted copies before, but I don't think I've ever lost data.
I use OneNote and I'm very happy with it.
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I use Jupyter notebooks and write in markdown.
It has repeatedly been observed here that Quiver and Jupyter have a lot in common. One thing I'm missing with Jupyter, though, is a convenient infrastructure for dealing with a large number of small notes. Are you using one notebook for each note?
Yes, though I break it up into different (labelled) sections, so I don't have a large number of files. It may just work for me since I tend to write longish overviews of things (papers, concepts, experiments, etc.).
Meetings and information I will need to reference: One Note backed up to a network drive. It's got a nice integration with Outlook meetings, lets me start a note with info about time, date, subject of meeting, location of meeting and participants present. I also keep a password-protected file with non critical passwords here, but don't tell anyone.

Day-to-day sketches and TODO's and little note lists: I keep a spiral note book next to my keyboard. I'm a leftie so it's upside down. I use the blue Pilot Drawing pens in various thicknesses. They dry instantly, so no ink smudges. Nice.

In addition to these I keep a day-to-day diary in .txt documents on my computer, I just open them in Sublime text or vim and make a new one every month. I try to just write four or five lines about what I've done every day as well as what I need to do tomorrow.

This is just about as close to how I handle most note taking currently.

You can't beat computers for quick searching and Onenote is both "GUI" enough to be friendly to people I have to share with and also does all those other things you mention. (Plus a lot of other cool stuff.)

I also use Sublime/vim in a similar way you mention, although I tend to use that as "RAM" in the sense that I don't save my snippets -- if they're not important enough to document elsewhere then if something really bad were to happen where (at least in Sublime) if a non-saved tab didn't show up at start automatically "oh well". (I've never had that happen though.)

Where I'm failing lately is any kind of physical pen/paper note taking since just the feel of that is great so I've added that into my TODO's of 2017. :)

Evernote. My Evernote is the only valuable digital asset I have. Everything else is exchangeable.
After the price spike and after getting 2 encrypted notes with bank accounts unreadable due to corruption I migrated myself away from it.
PAPER!!! I have tried lots of electronic things, and programs. And there is still one unbeatable: paper. With pen, pencils, and fountain pens.

Bullet journal is also worth checking,however I don't feel like we love each other.

plain text file + dropbox for accessing on multiple devices
I've been a fan of the concept of Quiver (http://happenapps.com/#quiver) for a long time, but unable to use it daily as it is Mac only.

I love the idea of having different notebooks, being able to easily merge text, code, mathematics and images into one note, and make 'cookbooks' out of them.

Someone make it for Windows please.

Nice suggestions, thanks
Not quite what you want but I use GistBox (Chrome App that stores snippets in Gists) for a similar use case

Did have a native app (Snippets?) but I wasn't happy with it.

http://www.gistboxapp.com/

I've been considering building my own Quiver-inspired tool, in part because I'm a bit concerned at the lack of updates, in part because there are a few itches I would like scratched, and in part because of the Mac-only situation.

I might at some point, in which case I'll look up your comment, but the main reason I'm holding off is that it's quite a bit of work in a market that strikes me as rather oversaturated...

Then again sometimes the best reason to start a project is to scratch an itch, and always thinking in terms of 'useful' is a surefire way to suck all the fun out of life. Hmm...

I'd be all-in on Quiver if there were a mobile client and nested folders.
I would love to see encryption in Quiver
Agreed, I don't have the time or energy for anything that isn't available on every platform I use. Lots of iOS apps, but if they don't have a Mac app or a web version, sorry. I don't always have my phone on me. Lots of Mac apps, but can I use it on Windows, too? Sometimes I use Windows.

We're a different kind of digital nomad: someone who never settles on one device, OS, or even form factor.

I'm quite a techno geek but when it comes to notes I've never given up good old paper and pen.