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Would like to hear from the presumably vast majority of shareholders that don't give a rat's a-- about gender diversity itself, just running an effective business with the most qualified team possible.

Also would love to hear the evidence behind the "bullshit" claim. Lots of sweeping claims, little verifiability (not that The Verge would bother with the latter part anyway).

The title is based on the proposal of one shareholder who seems too concerned about this one topic, when regular shareholders like myself just want exactly what you said:

> running an effective business with the most qualified team possible.

Apple obviously has their own policies and initiatives at work, so let them do their thing.

I'm all about diversity but this push is nonsense. This issue isn't unique to Apple and goes back to the bigger issue of lack of diversity in the tech industry. It's not because people aren't hiring with diversity in mind, it's that the pool of candidates, unfortunately, isn't that diverse. They're not going to solve it by putting quotas on hiring. They're going to solve it by hiring the best people for the job and supporting initiatives that encourage and embrace diversity and I, personally, think that Apple does a good job with that and there are plenty of measures that support that assessment.

I work with groups regularly that try to get into schools and promote coding and tech for young women and I believe that programs like that will go much, much farther to fix the diversity issue than these silly hiring quotas.

Agreed. Sometimes I have seen companies hire people with serious gaps in the name of diversity. We need to approach this as an industry problem and work to figure out holistic solutions instead of shaming companies publicly.
And I see a lot of people with great skills failing in these companies interview without a clear reason.
Can somebody please define diversity for me? Does it simply mean hiring more women? I feel all diversity related conversations become gender based diversity. I am actually getting a little lost in the debate.
Diversity means whatever you want it to mean: women, Asians, whites, gays, whatever
Diversity should mean a mixture of people with different views and experience. Too often it it means hiring an expensive diversity consultant to avoid a public shame shakedown.