Ask HN: How much do you make?

13 points by gymmaster ↗ HN
How much do you make in SF/Seattle/NYC/Vancouver? What is your household income?

Edit: Deleted a lot of personal information and also changed theme of the question.

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> I feel like I am paid poor man's salary despite being knowledgeable.

Trying living on 25k in Los Angeles.

Los Angeles local and I'm in the same situation. I feel like have the developers in LA are over paid (some iOS developers making 150-200k) and the other half are underpaid (15-30 dollars and hour)
How much do you make in SF/Seattle/NYC/Vancouver? What is your household income?

I will suggest you delete everything but the above. You will get better answers. Otherwise, you can probably expect a lot of snark and not much real information.

Toronto: $94,000 CAD and 5-10% bonus. Pension is matched 13% defined benefit plan.
I'm not in any of those markets but have lived and worked in Vancouver, and if I still did would likely have the same job as I do now.

$84k US but living in a part of Canada much cheaper than Vancouver. 4 days a week. No crazy corporate or startup deadlines. All open source.

Seattle. At my last 3 jobs, I made $135k, then $110k, then $90k, in that order, as both my skills and the profile/prestige of the products increased.
Is the downward pressure a trend? Too many people in the industry? Further blue collarization?
I don't think so. I think it's an illustration that compensation mainly correlates with how much you prioritize compensation. (As opposed to correlating with years worked, skills, or the status of the product.)
IEEE careers surveys show a similar downward trend.

As executive salaries soar, the workers that produce the real value in a company are being gouged.

The problem being made worse by under-qualified people entering the workforce. To technically illiterate managers, all they see is that these people are prepared to work for lower salaries. The fact that they haven't got the experience, education, aptitude; and can't produce to the desired levels is not understood. As a result the technical management are hauled over coals for failing to meet budgets and deadlines that they had no say in setting.

Why did you accept the lower pay, or leave the job with the higher pay?

Were the hours better, was the work more interesting, did you not have a choice or was there another factor at play?

The work was far more interesting each time. The high paying job was a bullshit Sharepoint app that everyone knew full well would never see the light of day. The middle one was a very, very successful mobile game. The last one was HoloLens.
I think we've long reached the point where there's more very talented people in tech than interesting jobs for them - hence the downward pressure in wages for those interesting jobs.
Were you a contractor? 90k seems really low for MS.
There will be a huge selection bias + reporting bias here. HN has a lot of people with relatively high wages and people are more inclined to state their earnings when they are high, just keep this in mind.

Also: cost of living is a huge factor in salary, if you earn over 100k in the Netherlands you're considered loaded, but I keep hearing stories about software devs in the US starting out with 100k.

In San Francisco, fresh grads can expect to make between 95-115k at a startup or non-tech company. For the tech giants, check Glassdoor - it's spot on for people with <5 years of experience because of the volume of people submitting information. Their numbers have consistently been in line with offers I've received.
I make ~34k USD per year as a senior iOS developer at a kinda-startup. That's before taxes, taxes are ~10%. I live in Bangkok.
Are you guys hiring by any chance?
Unfortunately not, in fact we're letting one iOS developer go soon due to company shifting a bit.

I'll send you an email if anything changes (checked your history out).

If you're keen on moving to Bangkok it should be fairly easy to check out job listings on LinkedIn etc though, there's certainly demand.