I really wasn't sure whether this post is an April fool's joke at first. Besides the WaP lightheartednes, the list of things he has already done sound like a huge amount of work. Assuming he just ricked me with the date, what a trooper! Kudos
Thunderbird also seems to be facing a massive rewrite.[0] Are there any good FLOSS, local (with a local mail store, if desired), cross-platform, secure (with security protocols implemented) email clients that support standard features and have a reliable future? And any of those that I could give to non-technical end users?
I know the names of a few, but I haven't tried them: Sylpheed, Claws, Evolution (cross-platform?), Kmail (cross-platform?), N1 by Nylon, MailPile (FLOSS?) ...
Uh ... Thanks for sharing the link as I didn't know that! Fortunately, they say they aim to be as close to the current TB as possible. So that gives me some hope. I worry that some highly individual use-cases will probably not work anymore in the future, though.
For example, if they move the content of the RSS feeds into a database (They'll keep RSS feeds .. right?) my two-line bash script for automatically downloading videos from links contained in one feed wouldn't work anymore ;)
Is this the same as PGMail? I remember using PGMail back in elementary school on what was probably Windows 1 or something. It was all blue and you would Ctrl-Enter to send a message.
We used to have it as PMail .. back in the mid 90s at uni .. used it for a bit, then shifted to Mutt, and finally to Thunderbird and stuck to it till now :(
If I recall things right this had a built in email list management. I had acquired a CSV of all the student and staff addresses. While I was goofing around with this I accidentally sent out a to a really strange email to everybody (but it kind of looked like it was addressed to them because everybody was in BCC). Next day at school was terrible.
>The other major issue with Pegasus Mail is that it uses a proprietary third-party product as its core editor, and I would not be able to take that product with me into an Open Source environment.
Portability issues aside, that's a questionable foundation.
Yeah, it seems a bit short sighted that he didn't just grab one of the many free, open source, fully featured cross-platform text editors available in 1993.
We used it as well. One of the kids in my year searched for "e" in the address book, and then sent a mass email saying "You have an 'e' in your name". He repeated that with all the vowels and some other letters, and then the server crashed.
I distinctly remember David Harris at Auckland University, and I think this is the same guy who wrote PegasusMail. Nice, unassuming geeky dude. Surprised this is still working.
Heh, I still use Pegasus as my primary email client. Not so much because I really like it (though I can't say that I dislike it, as I've gotten used to it in the past 21 years), but mostly because I haven't found any other email clients that are better. Pegasus Mail is quite slow with IMAP even on a LAN and has some weird issues, but its mail filtering ability is really flexible. I've tried Thunderbird, Sylpheed, Outlook, Outlook Express, even Windows Mail and Apple Mail, and every one of those annoys me no end. For me, Pegasus Mail is not necessarily the best, but still the route of least annoyance.
Thanks, I'll give it a try. I only use Mac OS at work, though, where my needs are a little different.
In the documentation for MailMate, I don't see the kind of filtering that I use with Pegasus Mail. This is one of the things I miss most in all other clients: I prefer to collect the mails in my inbox, without filtering. When I close the inbox, Pegasus runs a large ruleset with hundreds of rules, moving all the read mail to archive folders and leaving the unread mail in the inbox. I've not yet seen any other client capable of doing this.
I had no idea it still exists. I stopped using it like more than 15 years ago after too many corporate server obstacles. I believed that it had been discontinued... or maybe it was Eudora?
Do a view source on that page to get some lovely 90's era HTML nostalgia. (If you're wondering why the in-page menu behaves like that... it's because they're images, swapped out for their hover state with JavaScript, with the off state actually an animated GIF!)
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[ 5746 ms ] story [ 660 ms ] threadBut it was buggy and not very friendly, so we migrated to Eudora, and indeed users never looked back.
The English language has actually changed during Pegasus' lifetime.
http://www.pmail.com/devnews.htm
I know the names of a few, but I haven't tried them: Sylpheed, Claws, Evolution (cross-platform?), Kmail (cross-platform?), N1 by Nylon, MailPile (FLOSS?) ...
[0] See this discussion, for example: https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/tb-planning/2017-March/00...
For example, if they move the content of the RSS feeds into a database (They'll keep RSS feeds .. right?) my two-line bash script for automatically downloading videos from links contained in one feed wouldn't work anymore ;)
There were services where humans actually sometimes tried to manually route an email?
EDIT: Ah, http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2821.html states it should still be so.
Sigh.
Don't most email clients have that? That's how I send emails on Gmail and Outlook.
If I recall things right this had a built in email list management. I had acquired a CSV of all the student and staff addresses. While I was goofing around with this I accidentally sent out a to a really strange email to everybody (but it kind of looked like it was addressed to them because everybody was in BCC). Next day at school was terrible.
Portability issues aside, that's a questionable foundation.
I remember how much I disliked using it in Uni!!
In the documentation for MailMate, I don't see the kind of filtering that I use with Pegasus Mail. This is one of the things I miss most in all other clients: I prefer to collect the mails in my inbox, without filtering. When I close the inbox, Pegasus runs a large ruleset with hundreds of rules, moving all the read mail to archive folders and leaving the unread mail in the inbox. I've not yet seen any other client capable of doing this.
http://imgur.com/a/QOdMd