Ask HN: Anyone else not feel very connected with the local tech scene?
I graduated with an art degree with a focus in web design/web development. None of my high school friends or college friends are software engineers. They don't even know of anyone who is or is hiring in a company (so even 2 degrees of separation is hard to find).
Everyone in my family works in blue collar jobs or service jobs. They don't have any strong connects in the tech world either. That goes the same for extended family, like my mom's cousin and their children.
The only way I can stay in touch with other software developers is to go to local meetups. And sometimes chatting/emailing with them, which I usually do when I'm at Starbucks (there's no internet at home).
Maybe it's due to living in Chicago that makes it a bit more difficult. Still, a software engineer that's not friends with any software engineers, kinda weird? Anyone else in the same spot?
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[ 3.1 ms ] story [ 45.0 ms ] threadGoing to local meetups helps but it's probably leaving you unsatisfied due to the low frequency. Some suggestions that worked for me:
This is a phase in your life that will pass once you start working in the field. I know it may feel hard right now, but hopefully this piece of advice helps (which I found true for me, and I hear from others in the industry): your "outsider"-ness can be spun into a benefit. You see the tech world through different eyes, you come unhinged without biases. And, being fresh and without experience, you will be hungrier, more persistent, and more willing to learn something new than somebody who has roots and comfort zones.Once you pass through this phase and "make it", don't forget to give back when called upon; you will now be "that" person in this network comprised of non-tech people, in a world that is ubiquitous with tech.
However, I suspect it might be a location/culture thing more than anything personal. I mean, over here in London it seems like most people in the tech industry don't really care for it as a passion or hobby, but just treat programming like a 9-5 job without any extra side projects going on outside of that.
Maybe that's the case in Chicago where you are too. Maybe most of the companies there are filled with people who at the end of the day just don't care about tech as much as Silicon Valley folk do. Maybe for them it's just a 9-5 deal like it is for many folk here. There's nothing unusual about that.
I am somewhat confused by what do you mean by "feeling connected", however. What do you expect to give or receive from that connection?
Personally, i struggle to imagine a meaningful "shop talk" between two programmers that isn't job related. There is just literally nothing to talk about.
I guess I'm expecting more momentum to be built from my professional experience. Being in touch with a circle of people that talk shop, and bounce job opportunities back and forth. Right now keeping in touch with people in the industry doesn't feel as organic. Meetups help but it's still a bit forced from my view.
I believe that benefits occur more organically simply by making friends. But as I said, my friends are not very familiar with the software industry, nor know anyone who hires in that industry, so they can't really help me out in the professional world.
Before that I worked remote for seven years so literally my entire network consist of 15 guys in Key West and a bunch of people in Austin and the valley. Sometime it can feel isolating, but their are trade-offs like living in a Caribbean paradise.
In hindsight it sucks a bit not being able to bounce things off friends, but you're normally/hopefully going to have colleagues for that. I guess the most dangerous situation is having no friends in IT, and working as the sole IT person somewhere... you may not get exposed to new ideas or best practices etc. Easily the most I've learned (in terms of useful things that I otherwise might have missed) is from pair-programming (can be frustrating too). Otherwise I think it's pretty healthy hanging out with non-IT people out of hours.
[1]: https://angel.co/chicago
[2]: https://www.meetup.com/cities/us/il/chicago/tech/
[3]: https://1871.com