Ask HN: How did you find your company & job?

44 points by vrikhter ↗ HN
So this may seem like a simple question, but how did you find the company you are working at now? I've been using: crunchbase, linkedin, reading techcrunch, etc as well as a ton of coffees, beers, 'career advice' meetings. Every time I find a company I go through an extensive search of who works there, what they do, what the demand is for their product, etc. This helps for discovery, but of course will inevitably help during the interview.

I know there are many companies that I am still missing. Is there a service out there (not recruiters) that can play matchmaker with the characteristics that I am looking for in a company?

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HN "Who's hiring", linkedin jobs, even craigslist.

My personal experience with recruiters has not been as good as I would have liked. The recruiters I dealt with mostly did keyword searches on technologies and experience (e.g C++ dev with 3 yrs of experience) ignoring the other skills (teamwork, passion, how excited the person is about the company, etc.) Most recruiters use means that the companies themselves could use(LinkedIn, job boards, etc.) If the founders of the startup are not willing to invest time to find the talent and rather pay hefty fees to the recruiters, not sure if I would want to work for that startup anyway.

The ideal company would be one that you just "come across" than go out looking. For example, a product you heard about somewhere that got you really excited, or an idea that you had and while searching for who is working in that space, you find a company that was doing something very similar.

I agree with you on the recruiters point, heck most searching through resumes today is keyword based. Wouldn't it make sense to have something similar to match.com for employers and employees?
I agree that it's all keyword based. I think it's because machines can only capture the objective factors of a job search. Things like : "will you get along with the team", do you like the people you'd be working with, etc are very subjective and not easily captured by computers.

Meeting people at events, getting recommendations from other people you trust allow one to evaluate the position at a much more subjective level and make an estimation of the human-elements of working at the startup.

I worked for him out of high school; building the add-on to his house... Then in his factory building the product we sell for 2 years (very hard work, bending metal around a bender 3-4k times a day) ~ then he helped me land my first computer gig (ebay lister). I did that for 2 years then came back to the company as the only IT person.

Have since basically doubled internet revenue.

My answer; networking... one of my old friends worked in the factory and knew the guy needed some odd end help building a add-on to his house. Currently he is building me a new office onto our new building... I still feel the need to go independent though; cause of stupid office politics.

You are correct, networking is most always the best course of action. Nothing beats sitting face-to-face with someone.
Technical mailing lists. Almost all have an accompanying job list and often the most interesting jobs get filled from there.
I found my current job on the Stackoverflow job board. That same week, I received an offer from another great company that I found via HN.
Craigslist is a good place to start, but you need to be discerning. Find one that has realistic expectations for the job they are asking, and generally it's a good thing when they don't give you a price tag right up front because that means they will pay you based on what you're worth and not some arbitrary number.

My job asked a simple question, what was the title of the book written by 37signals, which reveals a lot about their perspectives. They also included enough information in the Craigslist ad that convinced me they were a technically strong company.

I actually haven't used craigslist as much. Will check it out some more.

But this still goes back to my point that craigslist, like monster and all others is a basic listing service of available opportunities. Is there anything out there, like a match.com for employers and employees?

I'm not sure but I think what you are looking for is a network of reliable professionals who you can work for and rely on for support. Something like this, I suspect, you could try to get rolling through a service geared towards professionals, like LinkedIn, but the real answer I think would be to find your own network, or find someone who has a network and tap into them, you know, IRL :)

I met a guy through RAC last year who has projects come up every few months and knows a lot of people and it's been a great professional relationship for both of us. He's the only person in my network, and I definitely couldn't make a living from it, but it's a good start.

I guess the key to what I'm trying to say is meet people and when you find good ones hold on to them!

It wouldn't necessarily have to be geared for individuals. I think there are a ton of companies out there in the 20-50 employees that are doing well, not getting a lot of publicity, but have a tough time finding great people. As I do finding them. This is where a service like this makes sense to me.
I got my current job through Craigslist as well. Their job posting was well thought out, and obviously created by a developer, not a random HR person. From start to hire, it was a 1.5 week process for me.
I got my job at Apple from the 37signals job board. Today is my last day, but it was a great experience. (Wish me luck with my new startup!)

The employment inquiries and offers I've received from startups in the past have mostly come through meetups and events I've attended or organized. Figure out where the smart people are congregating and go have some beers with them.

As another former Apple employee that left for a startup, I feel compelled to say congratulations and good luck.

Hope you enjoy your new life!

(on topic) Meetups and events are perfect ways to find job opportunities, as long as you're willing to put in some effort. Any time you can show off your skills, some app you wrote, or provide advice for someone else, you are impressing people and proving your worth.

Congratulations! I just gave my two-weeks at Big Fruit, moving on to something very exciting. All my friends who have left have told me it's been a great decision for them.

As to how I got my job at Apple, started interning after meeting an engineering manager at a school event, and turned that into a fulltime position after graduation.

New job was through a friend of a friend.

I was contacted via LinkedIn by the CTO at my current job. I'm friends with one of the other developers here who is well thought of. I wouldn't have ever come across this job otherwise. I'm horrible about doing research about companies I want to work for.

I did a few things before starting though like checking page load efficiency and seeing if implementing css spriting would help load time. I mostly did that so I'd have more information about how the site worked before I started.

I was also recruited via LinkedIn for my current job.
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I organized and hosted their recruiting talk at my university. They thought it was handled very professionally and fast tracked my resume.
I got my current job through Twitter.

I can't exactly remember how we ended up following each other but I know it's because we are both Django guys.

I met up with him for coffee once and when there was a job opening where he works, he tweeted about it. I replied to him and sent my resume.

I was discussing doing some contracting work with someone, which I mentioned to a friend of mine, who told me not to sign anything before talking to him. A few days later I asked if that meant he was looking for contractors, I was working with them within a week.

tl;dr: I knew someone who had his own company.

I'm working for the family business currently - it was a good opportunity for me the learn the ropes of running a business right out of college and it gave me a chance to help my father out with some issues he was having in my area of expertise. I'm working on starting my own startup as an extra-curricular project, but the lessons I've learned from working here have been fantastic and I keep learning new ones every day.
I was waiting in line for an iPhone 3G when someone called out "I need a web developer, who's interested?". We talked for a few minutes in line, then I did an interview the next day.

I'm still working with them now.

Craigs List.
If you're willing to sift through the noise you'll find something worthwhile and people that will respect you for the work you do. Craigslist isn't my first choice, but it is reliable; lots of people use it everyday.
I also landed my current job via Craigslist. Some companies post there directly, and it's pretty easy to spot and weed out recruiters.
I've been in students club of computer science, meet many people from older and younger years that were interested in programming. We were doing hobby projects and starting in team programming competitions.

At the last year of studying I've mailed one of friends from that club (he was working in one of a few big software companies in my city) asking if they would want me. I've been interviewed and got a job.

I did research to find tech companies in my area, picked a dozen that looked like a reasonably good fit, and sent them a cover letter. Marketable skills should get you a few bites -- some people may call/meet you even if they aren't hiring, which can help you gather information.
I got my job through facebook, a friend from university was looking for developers for his startup.
I work at Red Hat. I heard about the company ever since I heard about linux, but I didn't realize they have an office in my city before a colleague from my previous employer went there.

When I started looking for a different job, I knew a bit more about them and they were the first company I looked at.

Oddly enough, responding to a newspaper ad.
I got all the jobs I've ever held responding to newspaper ads. (using job boards is not that common yet over here in Uruguay)

I can tell you, though, that it's not the way to high-paying jobs.

I've gotten decent enough to get job offers from friends recently :) (though I declined as it wasn't a good fit)

I was recommended to my job by a former co-worker. We were both miserable at a previous company. He started here and brought me on.

I've actually helped friends lately look for jobs. As a tech person in NYC, I'm constantly meeting people in startups who are looking for great people. It's an easy intro e-mail and then my work is done!

Do your friends know you're looking for work?

Through a local python user group. I introduced myself at the beginning and said I was looking for a job. Over pizza and a beer afterwards, somebody mentioned an open position. I applied, interviewed, and that's where I am now.
I work at my own consulting company. 5 colleagues were tired of "working for the man", we rented an office and started calling other colleagues. Now (3 years later) we're down to 3, have full-time work and are fairly happy.
I got my current job via Dice, and the last two via Monster. I wish it weren't the case, but it is true.

I first always look through friends and on smaller job boards, but haven't had much success getting full-time work this way (although it has been very successful for contract work).

I always got jobs through tips from friends, I don't like recruiters and such to be honest.

I always feel they don't care for my jobhappyness, while friends won't advice a bad job (or at least not on purpose).