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This is a great news, few more years of delusional socialism will open people eyes that this system eventually runs off of other people money. Journalists will not have to travel to Venezuela to get pictures of people on the streets. History will repeat itself again.
Yes, I watched the debate and Macron is much more "libertarian" and Marine Le Pen is much more "statist".

One example: Le Pen wants to block M&A of "French" companies in the name of "economic patriotism". Macron does not want to interfere (he is a former investment banker).

This outcome is excellent for the French economy.

Macron wants to sanction Poland because Whirlpool is moving factories from France to Poland.
No he does not. He wants to ensure that the redundancy plan is fair to the workers, which is pretty different.

Le Pen was the one who wanted to prevent Whirlpool from leaving.

Macron is more of a social-democrat, not really a libertarian. He is for mixed economy with a large public service and some degree of liberalism, pro big state.
Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Netherlands and Switzerland are such dysfunctional banana republics with all that single-payer healthcare, sensible urban traffic design and reform-centric criminal justice.

Also, fire depts, police and highways are so socialist: let's privatize everything and see how well that works.

Can French residents educate me as to if the sentiment among his supporters is more 'pro-Macron and his party', or more 'anti-Le Pen and her party'?
He of course has his own supporters, but in my own bubble most people seem to be tolerating more than believing in him.

They're about to show his speech on French TV, mostly it seems that people are relieved that the FN lost, and then congratulating him as well.

Still, I it's time to all give him an honest chance and hope for the best!

It is safe to say that the conservatives and leftists are more anti-Le Pen than pro-Macron, and they represent about 40% of the population according to the first round of the election.

Considering that Le Pen gained only a few extra votes compared to the first round, it can be said that about 2/3 of Macron's supporters in the second round are not pro-Macron but in fact anti-Le Pen.

Can we really assume that based on votes alone? Just because they didn't vote for him in the first round doesn't mean they don't like him.
According to a poll from Kantor Public onepoint/TF1, of the people who voted Macron, 36% voted to support Macron and 64% voted to prevent Le Pen.
I was hoping for answers that weren't poll-centered. As we saw in the US election, what people say they want and what they actually want can be very different.
He's an unknown candidate that showed up at the last minute. People who voted on the first round weren't necessarily aware he was an option.
There are many democratic reforms needed in the EU, but on the bottom line, this institution has brought us peace for many, many years while it kept (european style) freedom for hundreds of million people. That Macron got the next french president is good news - maybe he become the Trudeau of the EU.