One thing they forgot to mention, that their high-tech troll-site can't handle scrolling with mouse wheel(invented in 1995) when mouse cursor is on the flash content.
One question to these wise-guys: If flash is so damn ubercool and HTML(web) is so obsolete, then why didn't flash replace HTML(web) long ago?
The scrolling works just fine for me in Firefox. Each browser implements scroll events a bit differently though, so you have to implement some hacks to get around that.
I think you're forgetting that Flash has replaced HTML for many things that it does better.
It's possible to make that work. It works on http://listen.grooveshark.com on OS X in most browsers, it's just a matter of embedding the swf in wmode=window and writing some JS to force the browser to send the scroll events through to the swf in the right format.
Apple and Adobe have started a strange comparison war. Too much focus on what you can "make", not enough focus on "why" one direction might be better than the other. I really don't care about HTML5 checkers vs. Flash checkers vs. Java checkers; which is going to make my online experience better today, and more importantly, in the future?
Nobody's arguing that you should ditch Flash today, but the use cases for it will diminish over time.
Right now if you want cross browser 3D, video or animation then Flash is the way to go. But in 10 years time when all major browsers have consistent implementations of <video>, canvas, <audio>, webGL etc, etc then, sure use an alternative ;)
I love web standards but they move at glacial speeds, and user adoption is even slower.
Wouldn't it be nice if Hacker news discovered when this happens on its own, possibly preventing the link to be created or auto-linking to old/related posts?
clicks outside of Flash movie so that by Backspace works to take me "Back"
What exactly about SumoPaint is "Impossible" with HTML5? I find this page disgusting. It smells of desperation and tastes of deceit.
Edit: Complete lack of professionalism here. "let's you," "impossible to built," "todays reality."
Also: "This was made with Flash but you probably didn't notice." No, I did. I noticed when I had to whitelist the page in FlashBlock, and when I couldn't select the text in your footer.
What is this? I hovered the pointer over a link to see its target in the status bar, and it showed nothing. Yeah, blind-folded browsing, there is an app for that .. flash. Let's hope the web is gentle with me.
Let me add that I like flash, but please don't break the web by hiding links.
Had to disable my flash blocker. Couldn't load it in Firefox - seems like my install of flash is borked there. Tried one flash demo, not bad. Tried another, it was loading for too long and I left. I have better things to do with my bandwidth than wait for flash.
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[ 3.9 ms ] story [ 72.2 ms ] threadOne thing they forgot to mention, that their high-tech troll-site can't handle scrolling with mouse wheel(invented in 1995) when mouse cursor is on the flash content.
One question to these wise-guys: If flash is so damn ubercool and HTML(web) is so obsolete, then why didn't flash replace HTML(web) long ago?
I think you're forgetting that Flash has replaced HTML for many things that it does better.
Now how can I open all those demos in new tabs?
It's more of a "stop trying to make this canvas stuff done in HTML sound like it's better than Flash yet."
Now when can I use it with assurance that I can target every browser and the 90%+ of my visitors will be able to see it?
I love web standards, I want them to win, but we're just at the start of this race and web standards have a loooong way to go.
Right now if you want cross browser 3D, video or animation then Flash is the way to go. But in 10 years time when all major browsers have consistent implementations of <video>, canvas, <audio>, webGL etc, etc then, sure use an alternative ;)
I love web standards but they move at glacial speeds, and user adoption is even slower.
Clearly, you haven't spoken to my boss. ;)
This was submitted 12 days ago and made the front page then.
clicks outside of Flash movie so that by Backspace works to take me "Back"
What exactly about SumoPaint is "Impossible" with HTML5? I find this page disgusting. It smells of desperation and tastes of deceit.
Edit: Complete lack of professionalism here. "let's you," "impossible to built," "todays reality."
Also: "This was made with Flash but you probably didn't notice." No, I did. I noticed when I had to whitelist the page in FlashBlock, and when I couldn't select the text in your footer.
But now time has certainly changed. People tends to like to post their crashing experience online.
Let me add that I like flash, but please don't break the web by hiding links.