Given the skill summary of each employee I'm guessing this is an insider effort. And kudos to them! This is a great way to turn a sad situation into a springboard for new opportunities. Would love to see it repeated in the future.
Also what would be the benefit to a head hunter in sharing this data?
That's a fair guess. It was more a "maybe some of them want time off without getting above average interview offer spam". Overall I think it's a good thing too.
Independently - I was passed the list as an effort by SoundCloud to increase exposure. No one til this point had thought about posting it on HN. No affiliation with SC and not in the recruiting business.
You can add SoundHound (the confusingly similarly named and colored startup with not unrelated lines of work) to the list of companies willing to hire!
I'll copy paste my usual Who's Hiring message here:
SoundHound | All roles available in Santa Clara/San Francisco. Engineering roles only in Toronto. NLP only in Sacramento/Baltimore | ONSITE - http://soundhound.com/careers
I'm an NLU / Data Engineer at SH. We've just raised $75 Million from NVIDIA, Samsung, KP and others to take on Amazon and Google in AI with our "Collective AI" Houndify platform. Our open Houndify platform has the world’s fastest speech recognition and most sophisticated natural language understanding. We've had a lot of interest from partners and there are a LOT of really interesting projects being worked on requiring complex problem solvers who can work well independently.
Things have come a long way since our leaked demo video took top spot on Reddit a year ago!
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/38fdyl/this_is_insa...https://www.houndify.com/http://app.jobvite.com/m?3uCiQhw0
If you have any questions you'd like to ask an engineer here just email me: rob at (company name) dot com. I respond to all emails but please no agents!
Somewhat unrelated but I'm a big fan of you guys and glad to hear you've raised enough to really push the technology. Can't wait to see where you take it!
OK, completely out of topic, but it's interesting to notice how broadly they use the term "data science". This goes to confirm my thinking that data science is becoming more and more an "all around data". The various facets of data science I am seeing in this spreadsheet:
- BI
- Data visualization
- Data engineers
- Statistician
- Warehouse
- SQL
- Python-fu
- Marketing
I look at it and I think it's a great prove that data science is not only phd territory, there are so many ways to bring value to the field.
I welcome the breadth. Data science is science with data, right? What could be more broad? If anything, it will be nice to break the association somewhat between data science and AI hype.
I also think thats justified. A newer, and more specific term I particularly like is "Machine Learning Engineer", which will probably soon be recoined to "AI Engineer".
We (www.datarevenue.com) basically have to use "AI" now to make it clear what we do. Something that would have made me feel awkward just 3 months ago.
Do you see a substantive difference between AI and ML? "Machine learning" to me is pretty cut and dry, in that anytime something is automated we are employing machine learning, literally teaching a machine to do something. "Artificial intelligence" I have a hard time defining, because I don't have a good definition for "intelligence".
Behind AI I would always expect at least Deep Learning. Machine Learning I use for everything that learns it's own decision boundaries. When it's humans teaching a machine, I'd call it simply automation or expert-system.
Although a lot of "teaching" still goes into feature engineering ...
A bit of transparency goes a long way. Where I work (Casetext), our data team does a mix of traditional data engineering, machine learning, graph algorithms, NLP (a mix of off-the-shelf and custom work), information retrieval, customer/market analytics, and experimental design. For us, and probably many other companies in this situation, it helps us to know what a candidate is interested in and good at. It also helps explain what we do to another level of granularity.
Yes, the "data science" label is pretty muddled. It happens (but it is understandable) probably because of the fuzziness of the topics and differing communication styles and goals of engineers, marketers, salespeople, and investors.
I may have lost current trends, but this is very disturbing to me.
Putting up this data together is very disturbing and to be honest somewhat desperate in my eyes. Cannot these guys find jobs themselves, they must be sold in a bundle, or what is the idea behind?
I believe the startup bubble is starting to slowly drain, and we'll see more and more of this.
I love the fact that people are prepared to be so open about this. Wish it would happen more. I don't know anything in detail about these people and their work, and so won't name names, but there are certainly people there that I recognise as quite impressive and I don't read this as desperation, just a neat response to an unexpected situation.
(edit: well, I wouldn't name names even if I did know more about their work. That would be uncouth)
It's just a group of people who've all been already vetted by a respected software company and who are all in a tough situation simultaneously due to no fault of their own. As long as their involvement is voluntary I don't see anything to be concerned about here.
The reason I usually hear: Good engineers almost always have jobs and usually aren't looking to change. When large layoff events happen good and bad engineers lose their jobs. This gives other companies an opportunity to recruit better talent with less effort than usual and, if they're really lucky, recruit entire teams that have worked together before.
One concern with that would be that good engineers would usually see this on the horizon and leave for better / more prospective jobs in advance. So those who stayed until mass layoffs might not be the top talent that used to work at the company before when it was doing better.
I am not sure it applies in this case as this was quite sudden and we don't have enough visibility to see how many red flags were there few months / a year ago. In this case it seems to have been so sudden that lots of great people have been caught off guard.
There are actual a host of real life circumstances such as family, babies, health etc. that might prevent or make it difficult for someone to conduct a preemptive job search or job change.
Well, since companies are always complaining about the chronic "shortage of tech talent" I'm sure everyone here will be employed within a few days, amiright?
EDIT: Honest, non-snarky question, then: If you believe there really is this shortage of tech talent, why is this effort needed? I don’t believe there is such a shortage and I wish these guys best of luck.
That, and there isn’t a shortage. There is a shortage of engineers willing to work for the wage being offered. When there is a shortage of a particular type of engineer, it’s because the company wants to pay $75,000 for a position that the market demands be $95,000. Thus the “shortage” and the “need” to bring in low cost H1 workers to fill that shortage.
Seems like if an engineer can easily hold out for 95k, it's because there is indeed a shortage that is big enough to do so. If there was a surplus of engineers instead, then more would be willing to work for lower pay, no?
There absolutely is no shortage. The distribution issue is taken out of the picture by looking at large firms like Google and Apple that can hire broadly. Google prides themselves on their interview system that has a high false negative rate. If there were any kind of shortage, they would probably be desperate to improve their hiring efficiencies. They are most definitely not concerned with that. On the other hand it is always in the buyers best interest to bitch about a "shortage" especially when they have regulatory influence. Why wouldn't they want to lobby for anything that can bring supply prices down? The day you see blog posts about Google or Facebook streamlining their interview processes (for both type I and II errors), I'll concede.
Seems like a win-win to me - companies get a list of somewhat-vetted potential employees, and if looking for a team can potentially hire a team already used to working with each other; the people get their details seen by a wider pool of employers and may find a new role quicker/with less effect on their part.
I don't think it in anyway implies they couldn't find a job using the more traditional routes; this is just an alternative avenue to try.
>"Putting up this data together is very disturbing and to be honest somewhat desperate in my eyes. Cannot these guys find jobs themselves, they must be sold in a bundle, or what is the idea behind?"
I think this a rather insensitive view. How is this fundamentally different than changing a your LinkedIn status or putting your resume up on a job board? If anything it might just be more efficient.
You can ADD LADDERS in NYC to the list of willing to hire! Javascript React front end Java/Clojure backend! also looking Technical Product Manager and account managers
I am INTERNAL technical recruiter please feel free to reach out Drosa@theladders.com
Most of these people are listed as still working at SoundCloud - what is the "explain it like I'm five" about this document? Did all of the employees just get laid off and I missed that news?
If anyone on this list is interested in working at Reddit, we're hiring a ton of people in Engineering and other departments in SF! Check out our jobs page: https://about.reddit.com/careers/#jobs-16253
If anything seems interesting, you can email me at saurabh.sharma at reddit.com
From an engineer's perspective, it's a wonderful opportunity to be part of a company that's only now building out most of their tech stack. We get quite a lot of traffic and it's very interesting to work at this scale.
The top of the spreadsheet says, "For companies currently hiring, please add your details to the second tab", but I'm seeing the spreadsheet in readme-only mode. Can the creator of this spreadsheet comment on how companies can edit it, please (or whether it's permanently locked now)?
We are hiring people in all engineering and product roles. We are looking for Python engineers, React.js engineers, SREs, QA, Mobile (iOS, Android, and React Native), etc.
Also, if you would like to add our resident recruitment lead to the list on the "recruiters" tab, here is their contact info (and info for the columns in the sheet):
Amy Wolcott | amy@sproutsocial.com | Sprout Social | Talent Lead
One of the founders of Underdog.io (https://underdog.io) here. Almost goes without saying, but we'd be happy to help any SoundClouders looking for something in NYC or SF (our two main markets). We work with ~350 of the best tech companies in those locations.
As I'm living in Berlin, where most of the layoff is happening, and knowing that SoundCloud is known for good talent, I'm wondering what impact that will have on the job market here. I track the amount of weekly recruiter requests on LinkedIn&such, curious if this will have an impact on this.
I was of the impression that the situation was the reverse: the Berlin office was spaired while the San Francisco, London, and New York offices were entirely laid off.
Copying my post from the who's hiring thread to here. Always been a fan of SC and clearly there were a ton of talented people working there. If you are anywhere along the spectrum of data scientist to data engineer and interested in python and go, shoot me an email.
Short term contract-based jobs are available if you are just looking for something to generate a little income while you explore the market.
Job posting:
Exigent Capital | Chicago | Data Scientists, Data Engineers | Full-time, Contract, Part-time | Onsite or Remote
Market Making / HFT group focused on cryptocurrency exchanges. Looking for quant / data scientists to find new edges in the market and talented Go/Python engineers to expand the trading platform.
If any of you on that list are interested in hacking on docker, kubernetes/docker swarm, aws/azure/google cloud or infrastructure provisioning tools (terraform, cloudformation, cm tools like chef and puppet) and making scalable and testable infrastructure a reality at really large companies, email me at carlos@contino.io.
I've been working with some amazing folks on some really interesting projects, and we have clients all over the world. We are located in NYC, London and Melbourne but hire from anywhere (I live in Dallas.)
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> It is hard to determine which is needed more, as a home has costs, loosing a job leads usually loosing a home.
It sucks to lose a job. These folks lost their jobs suddenly, and without having done anything wrong.
Simultaneously, the industry struggles to find qualified talent. Somebody put two and two together, and realized there's a quick, easy, and inexpensive way to slightly help reduce the pain of a layoff.
I'm sure these folks would've found jobs anyway, but this might help a few find it faster.
Frankly, I find it very disturbing that you understand the pain of job loss, but mock people who are reducing the pain. It says a lot about you; but those people are good people. Better than you'll ever be.
Definitely a shame - we're big fans of SoundCloud at Iris.
Please add IrisVR to the list. We're building AR / VR collaboration tools for 3D design pros, so lots of interesting challenges here for the right designers and engineers.
We're hiring a DevOps engineer (kubernetes, google, terraform, golang) and a Software Engineer for our desktop app (web/cloud technologies, electron, javascript, node) and would love to talk with anyone in NYC or Boston.
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I'll copy paste my usual Who's Hiring message here:
SoundHound | All roles available in Santa Clara/San Francisco. Engineering roles only in Toronto. NLP only in Sacramento/Baltimore | ONSITE - http://soundhound.com/careers I'm an NLU / Data Engineer at SH. We've just raised $75 Million from NVIDIA, Samsung, KP and others to take on Amazon and Google in AI with our "Collective AI" Houndify platform. Our open Houndify platform has the world’s fastest speech recognition and most sophisticated natural language understanding. We've had a lot of interest from partners and there are a LOT of really interesting projects being worked on requiring complex problem solvers who can work well independently. Things have come a long way since our leaked demo video took top spot on Reddit a year ago! https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/38fdyl/this_is_insa... https://www.houndify.com/ http://app.jobvite.com/m?3uCiQhw0 If you have any questions you'd like to ask an engineer here just email me: rob at (company name) dot com. I respond to all emails but please no agents!
- BI - Data visualization - Data engineers - Statistician - Warehouse - SQL - Python-fu - Marketing
I look at it and I think it's a great prove that data science is not only phd territory, there are so many ways to bring value to the field.
For people that genuinely want to tease it apart, there are useful ways to do it, such as:
http://www.datasciencecentral.com/profiles/blogs/six-categor...
A bit of transparency goes a long way. Where I work (Casetext), our data team does a mix of traditional data engineering, machine learning, graph algorithms, NLP (a mix of off-the-shelf and custom work), information retrieval, customer/market analytics, and experimental design. For us, and probably many other companies in this situation, it helps us to know what a candidate is interested in and good at. It also helps explain what we do to another level of granularity.
Yes, the "data science" label is pretty muddled. It happens (but it is understandable) probably because of the fuzziness of the topics and differing communication styles and goals of engineers, marketers, salespeople, and investors.
Putting up this data together is very disturbing and to be honest somewhat desperate in my eyes. Cannot these guys find jobs themselves, they must be sold in a bundle, or what is the idea behind?
I believe the startup bubble is starting to slowly drain, and we'll see more and more of this.
The startup souffle might be deflating for sure, but I think the intent here is to say:
"We just had to layoff 40% of our staff yesterday. Through no fault of their own, our folks are now jobless. Can the community help?"
(edit: well, I wouldn't name names even if I did know more about their work. That would be uncouth)
I am not sure it applies in this case as this was quite sudden and we don't have enough visibility to see how many red flags were there few months / a year ago. In this case it seems to have been so sudden that lots of great people have been caught off guard.
People with families, children, mortgages etc might be more prone to staying and hoping for the ship to be righted rather than preemptively moving.
EDIT: Honest, non-snarky question, then: If you believe there really is this shortage of tech talent, why is this effort needed? I don’t believe there is such a shortage and I wish these guys best of luck.
I don't think it in anyway implies they couldn't find a job using the more traditional routes; this is just an alternative avenue to try.
I think this a rather insensitive view. How is this fundamentally different than changing a your LinkedIn status or putting your resume up on a job board? If anything it might just be more efficient.
I am INTERNAL technical recruiter please feel free to reach out Drosa@theladders.com
Douglas Rosa 646-307-7522
If anything seems interesting, you can email me at saurabh.sharma at reddit.com
From an engineer's perspective, it's a wonderful opportunity to be part of a company that's only now building out most of their tech stack. We get quite a lot of traffic and it's very interesting to work at this scale.
If you're a scala engineer in sf who knows finagle, we're hiring. Plus, pretty much everything else.
Sprout Social | Chicago | ONSITE | https://sproutsocial.com/careers/open-positions
We are hiring people in all engineering and product roles. We are looking for Python engineers, React.js engineers, SREs, QA, Mobile (iOS, Android, and React Native), etc.
Also, if you would like to add our resident recruitment lead to the list on the "recruiters" tab, here is their contact info (and info for the columns in the sheet):
Amy Wolcott | amy@sproutsocial.com | Sprout Social | Talent Lead
https://underdog.io/candidates/apply
It takes 60 seconds to apply and we can get you fast-tracked to an upcoming batch. Can also email us with questions -- support[at]underdog[dot]io.
Short term contract-based jobs are available if you are just looking for something to generate a little income while you explore the market.
Job posting:
Exigent Capital | Chicago | Data Scientists, Data Engineers | Full-time, Contract, Part-time | Onsite or Remote
Market Making / HFT group focused on cryptocurrency exchanges. Looking for quant / data scientists to find new edges in the market and talented Go/Python engineers to expand the trading platform.
Contact wes+hnsc ||at|| exigentcapital.com
I've been working with some amazing folks on some really interesting projects, and we have clients all over the world. We are located in NYC, London and Melbourne but hire from anywhere (I live in Dallas.)
GrowingStartup.com would love to work with some of these people. I'm glad to see how supportive everyone is.
It sucks to lose a job. These folks lost their jobs suddenly, and without having done anything wrong.
Simultaneously, the industry struggles to find qualified talent. Somebody put two and two together, and realized there's a quick, easy, and inexpensive way to slightly help reduce the pain of a layoff.
I'm sure these folks would've found jobs anyway, but this might help a few find it faster.
Frankly, I find it very disturbing that you understand the pain of job loss, but mock people who are reducing the pain. It says a lot about you; but those people are good people. Better than you'll ever be.
We detached this comment from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14720640 and marked it off-topic.
Please add IrisVR to the list. We're building AR / VR collaboration tools for 3D design pros, so lots of interesting challenges here for the right designers and engineers.
We're hiring a DevOps engineer (kubernetes, google, terraform, golang) and a Software Engineer for our desktop app (web/cloud technologies, electron, javascript, node) and would love to talk with anyone in NYC or Boston.
https://jet.com/careers/locations/dublin