My guess? Money. Big cities are expensive (NYC has a ~3.5% city income tax). While incomes in rural areas are lower, the cost of living is lower too. And it doesn't have to be a rural area - just a city or region with a lower financial impact on a household could be enough to induce them to leave a high-tax area.
The title (of the article, not this post) is misleading.
Americans are leaving New York City. The numbers they use followed by
"That means that, since 2010, almost a million more people have left New York for somewhere else in America than have moved to New York from another U.S. metro—more than any other metro in the country"
indicate that people are leaving NYC. They don't say where these people are moving to, or if they are moving to other cities or rural communities.
NYC, SF, LA, etc are dying. Other cities are booming. People aren't leaving behind City life, they're leaving behind city life in a few cities that are too expensive, too competitive, and offer very little in return.
Why pay $1500 / month for a shoebox in NYC when you can spend 1/3 of that in a smaller (albeit less romanticized) city?
There is a middle ground between the rat race of the Big Cities and the classical 60s American dream house, and people are going there.
Dying is a bit dramatic. LA, NY, SF are only dying for those who can't afford them. For the 1%, and even for high-earning single people, these cities continue to have huge appeal.
I don't know about that. $456K a year puts you in the top 1%. 3:1 DTI means you can buy roughly $1.5MM apartment. In NYC, that doesn't get you the most appealing apartment. And you have a family in Manhattan, $456K is close to break-even (i.e. hand to mouth)
Smaller cities like Seattle, Denver, and Austin are all getting a lot of young people. Hence why you'll see so many people complaining about rising rent. :P
I'll drop Indianapolis in here. It is becoming a midwestern tech haven with large companies such as Salesforce making headquarters there.
Speaking from personal experience it is also dirt cheap compared to any other cities mentioned here and the salaries have been higher than what I have been able to find elsewhere.
I am weird but I have no clue why so many people are in cities. I have chickens, goats, dogs, large garden with fruit and veg, pool for very little money. No concrete, polution, noise and people, no attacks, less chance (history) of contagious disease, far less stress (for me). I like visiting cities for a few days but no clue why people insist on living there.
Well for the people I lived in cities as well, but I found I made far more and more profound friendships in villages and definitely the one I live in now. I made real friends there after the age of 35 which I would have a hard time doing in a city, even younger.
And the real benefits; what are those? Because I think some are perceived benefits. If you like that kind of thing, then sure, but that depends on what you mean? Instant grafication of everything always available and brought to your door I personally(and I say that carefully) perceive that as a weakness of self control. And really, each her own; I have this weird thing that I either like tiny villages (<100) or huge cities (>15m) but to live in I found tiny works better for me.
I meet a lot of people who want to leave the city but think they cannot, hence the question. If you like it, you like it, not trying to convince.
> have chickens, goats, dogs, large garden with fruit and veg, pool
I have no interest in any of those things. And, in fact, negative interest in some of them.
I can walk to dozens of unique and interesting restaurants, share a bottle of wine and not worry about driving home. I can attend plays, concerts, and comedy shows whenever I'd like (again, all without driving). My friends can stop by and say hi without it being out of their way or even a big deal.
Where you live is a matter of trade offs. Different people have different value systems along these things. That shouldn't really be a surprising thing.
Yes, that is true and in that sense it is not that surprising but I do not think that is why most people live in cities. And I do those things too when I visit cities, but am happy when I can go home. Matter of taste for sure.
Edit: also age maybe. Needs change during life. I know enough people who 'would never leave the city' for all the reason you cite and now claim they will never go back.
> I have chickens, goats, dogs, large garden with fruit and veg, pool for very little money.
Just add a handgun and an extra hole in the head and you'd have something that would appeal to those tens of millions of people who love living in cities.
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[ 4.6 ms ] story [ 68.7 ms ] threadAmericans are leaving New York City. The numbers they use followed by
"That means that, since 2010, almost a million more people have left New York for somewhere else in America than have moved to New York from another U.S. metro—more than any other metro in the country"
indicate that people are leaving NYC. They don't say where these people are moving to, or if they are moving to other cities or rural communities.
NYC, SF, LA, etc are dying. Other cities are booming. People aren't leaving behind City life, they're leaving behind city life in a few cities that are too expensive, too competitive, and offer very little in return.
Why pay $1500 / month for a shoebox in NYC when you can spend 1/3 of that in a smaller (albeit less romanticized) city?
There is a middle ground between the rat race of the Big Cities and the classical 60s American dream house, and people are going there.
http://www.investopedia.com/news/how-much-income-puts-you-to...
Speaking from personal experience it is also dirt cheap compared to any other cities mentioned here and the salaries have been higher than what I have been able to find elsewhere.
I love big cities, but not for anything less than $250,000+. I like my cost of living in the Great Lakes Region
Some folks like being around others, and having more immediate things to do. This in turn attracts others.
If anything, some prefer the stress of city life for the very real benefits of being in the thick of things.
And the real benefits; what are those? Because I think some are perceived benefits. If you like that kind of thing, then sure, but that depends on what you mean? Instant grafication of everything always available and brought to your door I personally(and I say that carefully) perceive that as a weakness of self control. And really, each her own; I have this weird thing that I either like tiny villages (<100) or huge cities (>15m) but to live in I found tiny works better for me.
I meet a lot of people who want to leave the city but think they cannot, hence the question. If you like it, you like it, not trying to convince.
I have no interest in any of those things. And, in fact, negative interest in some of them.
I can walk to dozens of unique and interesting restaurants, share a bottle of wine and not worry about driving home. I can attend plays, concerts, and comedy shows whenever I'd like (again, all without driving). My friends can stop by and say hi without it being out of their way or even a big deal.
Where you live is a matter of trade offs. Different people have different value systems along these things. That shouldn't really be a surprising thing.
Edit: also age maybe. Needs change during life. I know enough people who 'would never leave the city' for all the reason you cite and now claim they will never go back.
Just add a handgun and an extra hole in the head and you'd have something that would appeal to those tens of millions of people who love living in cities.