This is so stupid, are you just blind to the threads that get upvoted where the top comment is always someone calling for some industry to be nationalized or some form of trust busting to take place?
Nevermind the massive amounts of communism and socialism apologism, the massive amounts of people that believe the government should institute massive welfare programs for the "impending" robopocalypse, and the tons of threads about how amazing the Seattle $15 minimum wage is. All of this definitely sounds like anarcho capitalism to me.
edit: also I'm not an ancap and Milton Friedman is not an ancap before you comment on my username.
>The general zeitgeist of Y Combinator's Hacker News forum site (at least to many of its detractors) is one of nonspecific libertarian laissez-faire capitalism
Hardly, not anytime recently anyway. Dang will straight up ban you for being ancap on here.
Dang will straight up ban you for being ancap on here.
I'm an ancap and I haven't been banned, so I'm not sure about that. But I certainly don't find the prevailing zeitgeist here to be particularly libertarian as of late.
The user in question created a throwaway account to make the posting. That can only be because that person anticipated a flame war, and therefore armed against it with a "heat shield" that would absorb the downvotes.
Possibly, their main account has enough points to downvote others, so they can use the throaway account to bait replies and then downvote the replies using their regular account (something you can't do to your own replies).
Sock-puppet accounts should be identified and banned; and threatening repeat offenders with a main ban is part of the game.
Perhaps the user simply didn't want right-leaning statements posted on his primary account, as so many people are obviously and openly bigoted against conservatives in Silicon Valley.
Trust me, if you debate against socialism / large government on here, a mod WILL show up and accuse you (but not whomever you are arguing with, the user who endlessly supports larger government is immune) of flame-baiting / being inflammatory / trolling / being nationalistic / etc.
This depends very much on your definition of "right-wing."
My experience is that folks who told me I deserve to have my kids taken away from me for being genderqueer didn't get banned, so YMMV.
But also: throwaway accounts with the word throwaway? No one should feel bad when they're banned. No one should feel bad for banning them. That is the actual social contract of throwaway accounts, and they're tolerated insomuch as people just use userscripts to mute them out most of the time.
Again, you seem to constantly be projecting your opinions as being the opinions of everyone.
>That is the actual social contract of throwaway accounts, and they're tolerated insomuch as people just use userscripts to mute them out most of the time.
I love reading comments from throwaway accounts because I feel like you're getting a genuine opinion that someone is too afraid to share on their main account. And those opinions are the most interesting to me.
>No one should feel bad when they're banned.
I bet this sort of casual dismissiveness wouldn't fly with you if the authors were anonymous genderqueers.
> I love reading comments from throwaway accounts because I feel like you're getting a genuine opinion that someone is too afraid to share on their main account. And those opinions are the most interesting to me.
I hate them because they're often people spewing ideas they're too cowardly to own. If you feel discriminated against for being slightly conservative, imagine how I feel being an atheist genderqueer. We are unpopular creatures.
> I bet this sort of casual dismissiveness wouldn't fly with you if the authors were anonymous genderqueers.
It happens all the time. I challenge you to find me complaining about it even once. Throwaway accounts are throwaway.
> I love reading comments from throwaway accounts because I feel like you're getting a genuine opinion that someone is too afraid to share on their main account. And those opinions are the most interesting to me.
Yet, you are here rather than on Usenet or 4Chan or whatever.
I'd completely disagree, I thought it was an interesting perspective from someone outside of the US. It's telling to me that you believe you can tell someone's intentions (99% designed to flamebait.) And that you seem to think just because a comment doesn't have value to you personally, it's worthless (0 value).
I do not care about reading the tea leaves of someone's intentions. Their english was crisp and well-delivered, it was quite clear there was no miscommunication.
People who participate in bad faith deserve to be warned, rate limited, then banned. Those are the rules of this community and while I don't always agree with the interpretations therein, I think it's important we recognize them and respect the boundaries that are drawn while within this infrastructure. We can attempt to undermine it externally if we feel the need.
The general zeitgeist of Y Combinator's Hacker News forum site (at least to many of its detractors) is one of nonspecific libertarian laissez-faire capitalism,
Meh. That doesn't jibe with my experience at all. I'd say the general zeitgeist here is the exact opposite of libertarian laissez-faire capitalism. It strikes me as closer to "European style social democracy mixed with American progressivism and general scorn towards any notion of individual merit".
Maybe 10 years ago there was a libertarian zeitgeist here, but I sure haven't seen it for quite a long time. Or maybe I'm just clicking through on the wrong stories.
The veneration of the "startup" mentality and lifestyle above all else, threads regularly masturbating over things like seasteading projects, regularly excusing corporate malfeasance via appeals to private property ("it's their website, they can do what they want") or freedom of association ("if the ladies don't like the working environment, they should find different jobs"), valorizing companies for bending or breaking laws and regulations in service of private profit…
Nope, everything is fine. HN and the broader community it fits in and sustains is a bastion of progressive liberalism.
Not sure if it's because I've recently accumulated enough karma but I have a "topcolor" field in my settings page where I can pop in a hex code and change the banner color. Mine has been #C0ffee ever since that "hex codes that make words" articles was on the front page here.
So an extension seems like overkill. But I get it's about the statement so, whatever floats your boat I guess.
It all started with people on twitter referring to HN as "the orange website", usually along with a screenshot of a particularly abhorrent yet not uncommon comment. Thus the "true colors" pun.
But you're right that it's fundamentally about having an artifact. Many people are mad about "startup culture" and how it's affected the places we work and the things we love to do, and HN is a big part of how that culture is reproduced. That very real-world effect IMO makes "exit" insufficient; just black-holing the domain or whatever solves nothing.
Okay but to be fair there was an article yesterday about taking the blood of the young to revitalize the old that looked pretty amazing in a yellow/black color scheme.
In your blind attempt to stereo-type the HN community, you've missed the obvious answer, there are many many sub-groups ranging from anarchists to full on communists.
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[ 4.5 ms ] story [ 81.5 ms ] threadI'm actually not sure how the logo could be made yellow and black without distracting from the signature stark yellow/black diagonal to the right...
Nevermind the massive amounts of communism and socialism apologism, the massive amounts of people that believe the government should institute massive welfare programs for the "impending" robopocalypse, and the tons of threads about how amazing the Seattle $15 minimum wage is. All of this definitely sounds like anarcho capitalism to me.
edit: also I'm not an ancap and Milton Friedman is not an ancap before you comment on my username.
Hardly, not anytime recently anyway. Dang will straight up ban you for being ancap on here.
I'm an ancap and I haven't been banned, so I'm not sure about that. But I certainly don't find the prevailing zeitgeist here to be particularly libertarian as of late.
I didn't even have to go back 24 hours to find an example..
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14755236
He simply calls anything politically right-of-center an "ideological flamewar" and removes / bans as he sees fit.
Another easy example. He's so hypersensitive to any perceived "nationalism" he sees it everywhere.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14535633
Possibly, their main account has enough points to downvote others, so they can use the throaway account to bait replies and then downvote the replies using their regular account (something you can't do to your own replies).
Sock-puppet accounts should be identified and banned; and threatening repeat offenders with a main ban is part of the game.
Trust me, if you debate against socialism / large government on here, a mod WILL show up and accuse you (but not whomever you are arguing with, the user who endlessly supports larger government is immune) of flame-baiting / being inflammatory / trolling / being nationalistic / etc.
My experience is that folks who told me I deserve to have my kids taken away from me for being genderqueer didn't get banned, so YMMV.
But also: throwaway accounts with the word throwaway? No one should feel bad when they're banned. No one should feel bad for banning them. That is the actual social contract of throwaway accounts, and they're tolerated insomuch as people just use userscripts to mute them out most of the time.
>That is the actual social contract of throwaway accounts, and they're tolerated insomuch as people just use userscripts to mute them out most of the time.
I love reading comments from throwaway accounts because I feel like you're getting a genuine opinion that someone is too afraid to share on their main account. And those opinions are the most interesting to me.
>No one should feel bad when they're banned.
I bet this sort of casual dismissiveness wouldn't fly with you if the authors were anonymous genderqueers.
I hate them because they're often people spewing ideas they're too cowardly to own. If you feel discriminated against for being slightly conservative, imagine how I feel being an atheist genderqueer. We are unpopular creatures.
> I bet this sort of casual dismissiveness wouldn't fly with you if the authors were anonymous genderqueers.
It happens all the time. I challenge you to find me complaining about it even once. Throwaway accounts are throwaway.
Yet, you are here rather than on Usenet or 4Chan or whatever.
People who participate in bad faith deserve to be warned, rate limited, then banned. Those are the rules of this community and while I don't always agree with the interpretations therein, I think it's important we recognize them and respect the boundaries that are drawn while within this infrastructure. We can attempt to undermine it externally if we feel the need.
Meh. That doesn't jibe with my experience at all. I'd say the general zeitgeist here is the exact opposite of libertarian laissez-faire capitalism. It strikes me as closer to "European style social democracy mixed with American progressivism and general scorn towards any notion of individual merit".
Maybe 10 years ago there was a libertarian zeitgeist here, but I sure haven't seen it for quite a long time. Or maybe I'm just clicking through on the wrong stories.
Nope, everything is fine. HN and the broader community it fits in and sustains is a bastion of progressive liberalism.
So an extension seems like overkill. But I get it's about the statement so, whatever floats your boat I guess.
But you're right that it's fundamentally about having an artifact. Many people are mad about "startup culture" and how it's affected the places we work and the things we love to do, and HN is a big part of how that culture is reproduced. That very real-world effect IMO makes "exit" insufficient; just black-holing the domain or whatever solves nothing.
It is liberal/globalist consensus: extremely liberal on social issues, globalist on economics.