Ask HN: Why did you accept a lower salary?
For me, I work with my fiancee... for over 5 years now. This is our second job together and this is the longest job I've ever held in my career. I make way less than what I could be making as a web developer. I know I could probably go to another company and make more, which may be an assumption, but I like my company and I like working with my lady.
My job is fairly laid back; less than 10 minutes from home; Friday nights I get to work from home; I get about 4-5 weeks paid vacation a year; no one bothers me too much; and I have so much downtime, I spend a majority of the time working on side projects.
I also have a dream that someday I will finally be able to work for myself and not someone else hence the side projects. To go to another job means a whole new environment and I am just developing and supporting a product for yet another company. So I willingly accept my lower salary.
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[ 2.1 ms ] story [ 120 ms ] threadI get paid a bit below 100k, which in Los Angeles with 5+ years experience is pretty bad, but my end goal is to build my own business.
It wasn't worth it, they had a bunch of incredibly stupid systems and maintaining these was even worse than the VB6 apps. On top of that they lied to me - I was supposed to work on a new project and instead I worked on sorting out the mess that other programmers made. I noticed that some other people on the team did more or less the same kind of a job, expect their pay was better since they didn't have "junior" in the title.
I will never accept a pay cut again.
Certainly not at the junior level for doing the same thing, but once you approach the cap in your locality, it makes a little more sense to not be miserable every day.
Granted, it would make sense for you to take a lower salary if it was an investment in your future, for example, getting paid to learn the latest technology in whatever you are doing, or doing "Greenfield" projects rather than maintenance programming.
Maintenance programming sucks.
When I began working there... he was paying me just $10 an hour. The most I ever made there? $12 an hour.
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I wonder how similar our experiences are.
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I really enjoyed that job, the problems we solved were challenging and fun. And I learned so much, I accepted that lower salary as I bet on Linux, Python and Java knowledge would be in demand later. And today I'm really happy that I specialized in these technologies, because the market has really changed in my favor the last three years.
Better work/life balance inc. flexible hours, generous paid vacation/sick, closed for Christmas & federal holidays (on top of paid vacation), and unlimited (but optional) telecommuting.
The $80K would have cut my flexible vacation by a third, no closure at Christmas, flexible hours gone, and telecommuting pretty much gone (with a "maybe" they'll start in the future). Plus the commute was fifteen minutes more each way.
I may have made the wrong decision financially, but I have a family, and I get to see them a lot more telecommuting, we get to go on family holidays, we get to spend time together at Christmas, and flexible hours will help picking them up/dropping off at school.
It just wasn't even a choice for me, the final kicker is employer operates a strict 9-5 policy for work, not had that expectation on a Dev job in a long time.
I can fix code etc, but it's very hard to change culture. It would have been a big step up in many regards but culture is a huge part of accepting a job.
I asked for less money just to make sure I would still be hired.
Plus, I went from being responsible for the PM side of data architecture to natural language processing. Way less stress, way better skill set.
1) Large corporation vs small corporation, offers B and C were for very large corporations (one private and one public) and I took job A because I do not enjoy bureaucracy.
2) Challenge. Offer B was a job I felt I could already do 100% and everything I really wanted to do was offered as a "maybe if things go the right way you'll get to build something cool." Offer C seemed challenging, but was a different direction for my career. Offer A offered as much challenge as I was willing to accept and was very aligned with my career goals.
3) Flexibility. Offer B - no work from home until after a year, but even then it's not guaranteed and at most once a week. Offer C - it seemed like people were only allowed to work from home when there was a state of emergency/snow-closures, etc. Offer A - we are as flexible as possible, we are more concerned with getting the work done.
Also worth noting, I was the youngest person on staff when I was hired at company A. At B and C there were tons of people my age - I think this is why they had a worse work/life balance. I'm single and no kids, but most people I work with are pretty established in that regard. I believe I benefit a lot from the fact that my older coworkers won't accept crappy work/life balance.
4) Connecting with people. I definitely connected with those at company A moreso than those at company B and C. I think a lot of that had to do with the fact that at companies B and C people were just going through the motions during the hiring process, so it felt very robotic.
Also, while interviewing at company A it was very acceptable to discuss the displeasures of working at public corporations (I was able to have a very blunt convo with a CxO during my interview - and we commiserated a bit on our non-optimal experiences working at them).
Why? because they gave me the ultimate perk, 100% remote!
I'm heading to thailand next week and plan to just travel around the world. As a bonus, my total living cost in southeast asia (including rent food and plane tickets) is going to be less than what I pay in rent right now.
Since I was here, I took a 10k paycut once, to move from a big company to a small startup.
It was the right call, but I was lucky, and it was by no means guaranteed to work out (2009 was scary).
Company got acquired by a massive one, and compensation ramped back up to the top of the scale (w/ RSUs making total comp p.a. something I can't match elsewhere in the local market - I interviewed around, and found out I was making substantially more than the CEO of the startup I interviewed at).
But thinking of making the move again, since I'm feeling my skills atrophy a bit, and financially now on a solid footing, so I'd like to work somewhere a little more fast-paced.