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If they and other companies succed the number of jobs disappearing is going to be massive. Technologically we are almost there, but socially just a few see this coming, and we are not prepared.
You are short-sighted. Would you say the same about the telecommunication industry? Would you say the same about computers (machine), because computers (people) lost their jobs?

I recommend you to read Bastiat's famous Candlestick makers' Petition.

http://bastiat.org/en/petition.html https://fee.org/articles/the-candlemakers-petition/

This is beautiful. I have never bookmarked anything faster. Will print it and keep on my desk for perspective
> You are short-sighted. Would you say the same about the telecommunication industry? Would you say the same about computers (machine), because computers (people) lost their jobs?

I'd say the same about globalization, which is just as powerful as a force as technology advancement; globalization which has driven populist policies and candidates into office.

At what point did the guillotines come out in France? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Revolution

Displace too many jobs at once, be prepared for revolution if you have not put social policies in place to provide a soft landing for those displaced.

EDIT: This is not meant to be inflammatory or political, simply factual. When inequality reaches a tipping point, revolution and violence is inevitable.

http://news.stanford.edu/2017/01/24/stanford-historian-uncov...

> This is not meant to be inflammatory or political, simply factual. When inequality reaches a tipping point, revolution and violence is inevitable.

Don't disagree at all, but if people are coordinating their revolutionary activities with any of the technology that they couldn't learn to leverage to empower themselves when this time comes, I foresee more metadata drone strikes at wedding parties outside of the ME, with a lot less casualties defined as collateral damage, powered by a industry that prefers profits from wars when they have indefinite timelines…

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> You are short-sighted.

1. I'm for automating driving, as it will save lives and it is a job that usually requires people to be away from their families for long periods of time (long distance trucks).

2. The industrial revolution, for example, was not more of the same. It changed the world. This kind of change is probably at the same scale. But it has the same risks.

My message is: Bring automation, but bring political change with it or it is going to cause a lot of pain and suffering.

And yes, I'm short-sighted and that's why I wear glasses. :P

"Employers could pay a child less than an adult even though their productivity was comparable; there was no need for strength to operate an industrial machine, and since the industrial system was completely new, there were no experienced adult labourers. This made child labour the labour of choice for manufacturing in the early phases of the Industrial Revolution between the 18th and 19th centuries. In England and Scotland in 1788, two-thirds of the workers in 143 water-powered cotton mills were described as children." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_Revolution#Standard...

I think that many see this coming, but democracy usually needs to be shocked to respond with big changes.
jobs are always lost with new technology but its a short term problem. consider how many jobs the computer industry has created and how may it made obsolete..
Will a dozen++ automakers license the autonomous versions of "android" or "iOS" /Windows /Unix or have their own solutions? Gazillion dollar question.
When demand for oil peaks what happens to all the people - and countries - that dpened on oil maintaining a certain price per barrel. What is the new source of demand for oil that replaces internals combustion engines in millions of cars?

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for it... just like thinking about those ramifications.

Plastic is one thing that comes to mind.
There are plenty of really good uses for oil, but nothing on the scale of ICE powered vehicles.

Look at Venezuela to see what will happen to other oil powered economies.

Venezuela's collapse is good old incompetence and corruption, not especially to do with oil prices. It's more convincing to argue that the Arab Spring was caused by the last oil shock.

But don't forget that oil production requires continuous expansion; a predictable long term decline in demand for oil will cause a reduction in drilling and production, just as recent high prices have caused an expansion.

If history is any indicator, it is going to get very ugly. Between this, AI, process automation etc I am not convinced societies will gracefully migrate to a social state everywhere which then leads me to believe that population control will start to get enacted (ie in 60 years people may need a license to have a child) among one of many potential outcomes.
Ugly is probably a massive understatement, given the state of that region know when they are practically rolling in money. I think you can probably expect the next couple of decades to look like a fairly precipitous decline, followed by a stupendous explosion.
It's a transition that will take a couple of decades at least. People and transportation companies are not all going to run out and replace their cars and trucks with EVs in the next few years.

The same thing will happen with the demand for oil that happened with the demand for horses and carriages. People will find other things to do.

This is precisely why there is a big push in Saudi (and likely other similar countries) to train people up on STEM and such..
They will go back to riding camels like their grandfathers.
>The company provided few details of how it plans to get to its end points: no information about what tech they would use for these self-driving cars, and whether or how they would work with partners or if they planned to build everything from the ground up.

>Nor did they give any information about the progress of these common platforms for building electric vehicles — although they noted that they had sold some 500,000 EV’s all in across the group to date — still just a drop in the ocean of the multiple millions sold by the three, and the tens of millions of cars that are sold across the whole industry.

>The group was also thin on specifics when it came to its plan for transportation services offered alongside their vehicles.

What is there to even talk about here?

How about the massive opportunity for surveillance? Roving robo-cop cars on dual-use contracts, parking, observing, instantly connecting to a remote operator when a violation is detected. Easily reduces the requirements to be a police officer to somewhere near "can you stare at a computer screen?". In places where the "speed cams" went down in flames (~70% of the vote against where I live) I'm more optimistic the people wont tolerate it, but god help the nanny states. Just to be clear, I sincerely appreciate the dedicated and excellent police out there, many of them share my views on the "speed cams", robo-cops etc.
Will state actors abuse their ability to tap providers on their shoulder and siphon the data? Yes

Will consumers use such technology increasingly more, esp as cost and availability of it increases? Yes.

Will non state actors have eve more ability to use/exploit such tech for their own purposes? Yes.

What people will do combat such? Who knows, though I know showing up to a voting booth wont change much in the scheme of things…

I barely trust most car companies to build a radio. What makes them think I will trust them to build an autonomous car?
There never was a roadmap for building that radio.
You don't have to worry about because it'll never work.
No one wants to be left behind. Even if they had no plans they don't want to be seen as not keeping up after recent announcements from Mercedes, VW, Volvo etc.
Yes, the commitment to electric (and hybrid) technology seems to be spreading very quickly since Volvo's announcement in July. It feels like it has taken forever for electric vehicles to catch on, and suddenly they're on the verge of mainstream.