> Unknown to analysts, investors and the hundreds of thousands of customers who signed up to buy it, as recently as early September major portions of the Model 3 were still being banged out by hand, away from the automated production line...
Why is this so accusatory? Was there some guarantee made that the Model 3's production line would be 100% autonomous, ever?
Sounds more like Tesla's doing what it needs to do to ship what it can.
Disclaimer - I don't have access to the full story so might be missing some context.
As the full story lays out, production experts commented that its highly unusual to be shipping production cars without the line being fully installed. It’s not that the process should be autonomous, it’s that workers are literally hand-muscling parts of the body into place and aligning them by hand while they hand-spot-weld them.
As someone with 15 years of high-volume manufacturing experience (not in automobiles, though), I’d agree that it’s very odd to be shipping units to customers or claiming to be in mass production before your final tooling is installed on the line and qualified, even if it might change later.
The story came from the WSJ which has a reputation of making things up when it comes to Tesla. A second confirmation source would be nice but it doesnt look like anyone else is touching this.
I agree, but the Tesla spokesperson didn't deny, and instead shot back with:
> For over a decade, the WSJ has relentlessly attacked Tesla with misleading articles that, with few exceptions, push or exceed the boundaries of journalistic integrity. While it is possible that this article could be an exception, that is extremely unlikely.
I want Tesla to succeed, but as far as I see it, the burden of proof is currently on Tesla as they fell incredibly short of their claimed production goals for Q3.
it’s not their first car and with a company that claims to be worth more than most of other car producers the inability to build and run a production line/process looks just ridiculous. What is going on there? Maybe they should outsource to China and get the whole manufacturing running in few weeks?
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[ 3.0 ms ] story [ 48.4 ms ] threadWhy is this so accusatory? Was there some guarantee made that the Model 3's production line would be 100% autonomous, ever?
Sounds more like Tesla's doing what it needs to do to ship what it can.
Disclaimer - I don't have access to the full story so might be missing some context.
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[0]: https://github.com/njuljsong/wsjUnblock
[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html
As someone with 15 years of high-volume manufacturing experience (not in automobiles, though), I’d agree that it’s very odd to be shipping units to customers or claiming to be in mass production before your final tooling is installed on the line and qualified, even if it might change later.
> For over a decade, the WSJ has relentlessly attacked Tesla with misleading articles that, with few exceptions, push or exceed the boundaries of journalistic integrity. While it is possible that this article could be an exception, that is extremely unlikely.
I want Tesla to succeed, but as far as I see it, the burden of proof is currently on Tesla as they fell incredibly short of their claimed production goals for Q3.
Thanks for the downvotes, god I hate HN karma.