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It didn't take Russians to turn Americans on each other. Some Russians just gave it a nudge.

Perhaps some Americans just wanted power and used an effective divide and conquer strategy on their fellow Americans.

Perhaps some Americans need to look down on some other Americans.

Perhaps some Americans are intolerant of other Americans.

BTW this applies to both sides of the political spectrum.

The very foundation of these companies is influence peddling: pay me money to get people to do what they would not otherwise do. It obviously works else Facebook and Google wouldn't be worth north of half a trillion dollars each.
That's the also the foundation of the political system. Whomever is behind these ads (may well be the Russian government, or may not) should get in line far behind everyone else.
That applies to the nytimes too. They are in the business of influence peddling.
True. They are transitioning to a subscriber model though.
'“What they did is wrong, and we’re not going to stand for it,” Mr. Zuckerberg said.'

I'm sure the FSB are quaking in their boots.

I also think it's legitimate to point out firstly that the US has a long and distinguished history of interfering in democratic elections the world over, sometimes even overthrowing democratic regimes to install horrible dictators, and secondly that Israeli influence on the US elections is considerable and out in the open, but for some reason hardly every reported by the MSM as malign. Funny old world eh.

Americans didn't need the Russians to turn against one another. I have been here since 2000 and I am still amazed how vicious a lot of campaign ads are and how much a lot of people have bought into the mindset that the "other side" liberals/conservatives is basically evil.

The American system did this to itself. The Russians are just a little sideshow.

So we'd all be living in perfect harmony (with Hillary Clinton as president) if it weren't for those 100K in Russian ads?

Geeze. Cmmon NYT. Your anti-Internet Media and and anti-Russian and pro-whoever the democrat is positions are understandable and may even have some merit based on political beliefs, but please, be a little more reasonable, especially with your headlines. It's not like everything was fine and harmonious even if Russia didn't even exist.

Firstly, we have always been divided and against each other. Rich vs poor, white vs black, rural vs urban, native vs settlers, native born vs immigrants, states vs federal government, etc. What is the NYTimes going to do next? Blame russia for the civil war?

Secondly, the media, including the NYTimes,

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/25/opinion/sunday/hillary-cl...

did far more to divide the country and turn everyone against each other than russians. The nytimes and their fellow media cohorts incessant agenda-pushing via their socio-political propaganda war has soured the nation.

Thirdly, what disturbs me is the coordinated propaganda campaign waged by almost all the media ( nytimes, wapo, bloomberg, cnbc, etc ) all pushing the same message. It almost seems like they are just different mouthpieces of the same propaganda organ.

Fourthly, it's exhausting and quite frankly ineffective to spam "russia is behind everything" everyday. It just makes the nytimes and the rest of the media look like propagandists rather than actual news organizations.

But that's just me. My faith in news organizations is forever lost anyways. Once you peek behind the veil, there is no going back.