If it's just tiles in a regular pattern, how do you know one is made by Invader and not a random copycat? Asking seriously, someone paying 200k must mean they have something unique to hem right?
Lately, I have been facing this issue. A large number of the pieces are removed, damaged or destroyed by individuals who seek to resell them. Given the type of tiles I use, to steal the work is impossible. These individuals by removing the mosaics destroy the piece and then have to buy ceramics to repair or recreate the work. They even try to add a patina to make it look vintage. They then try to sell these bad replicas! I have hard time believing that anyone would buy any unauthenticated mosaic tiles as people could simply go to home depot and do it by themselves …I can only hope that soon enough nobody will be tempted to buy or steal pieces in the streets and therefore that this nonsense and painful destruction will stop.
Also insightful:
Is it possible to own a Space Invader? How do people acquire one of your works?
The most economical solution is to buy tiles and to create your own at home. It is not a very difficult assembly work and it is possible to find similar types of tiles I use.The second solution is to purchase an "invasion kit". It is a ready-to-use limited edition of a Space Invader. They are produced at the studio and sold in the Space Shop. It is at the same time a conceptual and functional object. Finally, for people who wants a unique art piece, they can seek for an Alias, which is the exact replica of the unique work in the street. There is one and only Alias for any past or present works present in the streets. Every Alias comes with a signed certificate of authenticity. Art Collectors should contact Over The Influence for any available pieces.
Heh. The usual question with modern "art". For me all this is very similar to "coloured bits" (http://ansuz.sooke.bc.ca/entry/23). What makes your black square better than (or even different to) my black square?
The value of artworks is as much about their 'provenance' as it is about the actual content of the art itself. A famous painting isn't worth a lot because it's a really good painting, it's worth a lot because a lot of famous people have owned it.
He had the right to destroy the work since it was his and in his property, but to then whine about it just because he learned of its monetary value... It's just wrong.
Pfft, and calling it a "work of modern art" after the fact.
But... that's the only way in which it's more valuable than some pixel art you make yourself - because of a 'fool' willing to pay that for it.
Granted, if you twist my arm I can come up with grand statements about oeuvres and the conversation between the art and the environment in which it is embedded bla bla bla, but that's just a way to justify the inflated price for something which is just kinda neat and fun.
> He had the right to destroy the work since it was his and in his property
Probably should add to that " and he destroyed it in a way that did not harm the reputation of the artist".
This was in France, which has some strong moral rights for artists, including a right to respect of the integrity of their work (droit au respect de l'intégrité de l'oeuvre) which prohibits modifications and mutilations to the work that could harm the reputation of the artist.
I also found something that suggested that in at least some countries the right to respect of the integrity of the work requires that before destroying a work you have to offer to let the artist take it back, but I don't know what countries that applies to.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who was a little miffed about that. For those you are like "huh?" in Art (big A) Modern imo is ~1900-1960. Wikipedia starts it about 40 years earlier which I'm apt to believe just not familiar with.
Correct - modern art is an art movement during a specific time period.
Contemporary art is simply "made by living artists, now" - and will inevitably be re-name with some -ism to help classify the common themes and styles.
Though the beauty of the English language is such that the word "modern" refers explicitly to now but the word "contemporary" can refer to any time period at all, depending on context! With the ultimate fun being that contemporary can mean exactly its own opposite: "DaVinci's work surpasses all contemporary art." Does that mean DaVinci's contemporaries or the writer's contemporaries?
The article woefully goes on about how the artworks are being stolen by thieves in high-viz jackets, but that's kind of the point of street art - it's ephemeral, it will get damaged, lost, etc, and in fact it's placed illegally in the first place. The author probably expects it to happen and doesn't mind. Of course, when people start spending 200K on the works it becomes a different matter, but then he should put his work in a museum - you know, something that has security.
"The author probably expects it to happen and doesn't mind."
-> He does mind: "I can only hope that soon enough nobody will be tempted to buy or steal pieces in the streets and therefore that this nonsense and painful destruction will stop" - from http://www.space-invaders.com/about/
I'm a huge fan of Invader. When I walk (or ride) in the streets of Paris and spot an Invader, it bring me a small moment of joy. I've trained my children to spot then too, and it's even better when it's them who find them first.
"Is it possible to own a Space Invader? How do people acquire one of your works? -> [...] Finally, for people who wants a unique art piece, they can seek for an Alias, which is the exact replica of the unique work in the street. There is one and only Alias for any past or present works present in the streets. Every Alias comes with a signed certificate of authenticity. Art Collectors should contact Over The Influence for any available pieces."
Seems like "How I threw away something that's currently trading for a lot of money" would be a more relevant title.
That reminds me to bring up art more in the conversation about the "underlying value" of cryptocurrencies.
Working title of the essay I'm not going to write: "The Store of Value in the Age of Digital Reproduction in the Age Following the Age of the Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction".
Well, it was just silly to destroy it, even if the author didn't like it.
In my parents house(which was built in the 80s) the original owner had an entire wall of the living room decorated with an absolutely stunning mosaic of a peacock, made out of tiny glass squares. He must have commissioned a local artist to design it and then the artwork must have been created over weeks with a lot of manual labour. However, try as you might, it would never fit into a modern house, as beautiful as it was - so what did my parents do? They put a thin plasterboard over it and just painted that. So the peacock is still there and we have a plain white wall in the living room. Don't understand why the author couldn't have done the same.
Cute pattern (an homage), nothing wrong with crafty stuff like creating fun tile patterns like that, but the whole “scene”, the pretentious fluff and the stupid amounts of money being spent on this stuff is moronic and pompous.
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[ 4.0 ms ] story [ 78.1 ms ] threadAre your mosaics being removed or stolen?
Lately, I have been facing this issue. A large number of the pieces are removed, damaged or destroyed by individuals who seek to resell them. Given the type of tiles I use, to steal the work is impossible. These individuals by removing the mosaics destroy the piece and then have to buy ceramics to repair or recreate the work. They even try to add a patina to make it look vintage. They then try to sell these bad replicas! I have hard time believing that anyone would buy any unauthenticated mosaic tiles as people could simply go to home depot and do it by themselves …I can only hope that soon enough nobody will be tempted to buy or steal pieces in the streets and therefore that this nonsense and painful destruction will stop.
Also insightful:
Is it possible to own a Space Invader? How do people acquire one of your works?
The most economical solution is to buy tiles and to create your own at home. It is not a very difficult assembly work and it is possible to find similar types of tiles I use.The second solution is to purchase an "invasion kit". It is a ready-to-use limited edition of a Space Invader. They are produced at the studio and sold in the Space Shop. It is at the same time a conceptual and functional object. Finally, for people who wants a unique art piece, they can seek for an Alias, which is the exact replica of the unique work in the street. There is one and only Alias for any past or present works present in the streets. Every Alias comes with a signed certificate of authenticity. Art Collectors should contact Over The Influence for any available pieces.
He had the right to destroy the work since it was his and in his property, but to then whine about it just because he learned of its monetary value... It's just wrong.
Pfft, and calling it a "work of modern art" after the fact.
Granted, if you twist my arm I can come up with grand statements about oeuvres and the conversation between the art and the environment in which it is embedded bla bla bla, but that's just a way to justify the inflated price for something which is just kinda neat and fun.
9 years is a long time. I'm sure he's removed enough from the experience to be able to laugh about it.
Probably should add to that " and he destroyed it in a way that did not harm the reputation of the artist".
This was in France, which has some strong moral rights for artists, including a right to respect of the integrity of their work (droit au respect de l'intégrité de l'oeuvre) which prohibits modifications and mutilations to the work that could harm the reputation of the artist.
I also found something that suggested that in at least some countries the right to respect of the integrity of the work requires that before destroying a work you have to offer to let the artist take it back, but I don't know what countries that applies to.
The second part - it's not a zero-sum game. Why can't both be "real" artists?
Contemporary art is simply "made by living artists, now" - and will inevitably be re-name with some -ism to help classify the common themes and styles.
-> He does mind: "I can only hope that soon enough nobody will be tempted to buy or steal pieces in the streets and therefore that this nonsense and painful destruction will stop" - from http://www.space-invaders.com/about/
See:
- http://www.space-invaders.com/about/ for a FAQ about the artist and his project.
- http://www.space-invaders.com/world/ -> map of all the Invaders over the world (Europe, US, Asia, a couple of african countries).
- http://www.space-invaders.com/world/paris/ pictures of the ones in Paris.
"Is it possible to own a Space Invader? How do people acquire one of your works? -> [...] Finally, for people who wants a unique art piece, they can seek for an Alias, which is the exact replica of the unique work in the street. There is one and only Alias for any past or present works present in the streets. Every Alias comes with a signed certificate of authenticity. Art Collectors should contact Over The Influence for any available pieces."
That reminds me to bring up art more in the conversation about the "underlying value" of cryptocurrencies.
Working title of the essay I'm not going to write: "The Store of Value in the Age of Digital Reproduction in the Age Following the Age of the Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction".
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/ruined-jesus-church-fr...
In my parents house(which was built in the 80s) the original owner had an entire wall of the living room decorated with an absolutely stunning mosaic of a peacock, made out of tiny glass squares. He must have commissioned a local artist to design it and then the artwork must have been created over weeks with a lot of manual labour. However, try as you might, it would never fit into a modern house, as beautiful as it was - so what did my parents do? They put a thin plasterboard over it and just painted that. So the peacock is still there and we have a plain white wall in the living room. Don't understand why the author couldn't have done the same.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mCT9qc_djSg
Skip to one minute in.
http://www.npr.org/sections/krulwich/2012/03/12/148456099/tw...