Ask HN: What Sucks About Facebook?
The web tore through Friendster, Orkut, MySpace etc. Will Facebook be next, and if so, when? I realized that time was up for MySpace when I wasn't using it, and when people I knew where not using it. That gap was plugged by Facebook rather quickly, and it spread like a weed. Is Facebook still vulnerable? It would have been impossible to imagine MySpace dying the way it has, but it happen.
I now realize that I no longer use Facebook. I am there, but I rarely login anymore. Instead of listing my reasons, I wold prefer to hear from HN what they think sucks about Facebook. I spoke to some 'average users' and got some feedback from them as well, and it seems that Facebook could be a fad. So HN, Facebook: The next Google or MySpace and why?
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[ 3.0 ms ] story [ 86.9 ms ] threadEven though I am 20 and in college and am friends with everyone I know in real life, everyone I knew growing up and from summer camps, and many of my internet friends as well, I rarely go on anymore. It used to be a daily activity.
What went wrong? I think it just became so popular, had so many people that it wasn't not interesting anymore. We all have a little hipster in us - once everyone you know and their mother and their grandmother is using something, it starts to lose its appeal.
Lastly, Facebook had too much change. They could have updated it once or twice with fairly big changes and been fine. I noticed that I hated hearing about facebook or going on facebook when they were rolling out new privacy agreements and rearranging the site layout once a week.
There is a big potential for anyone developing the next social networking site. Who knows what aspects will make it popular though.
Of course after that it's a long way down that hill that you can literally shoot up on but I don't think there ever will be a permanent social network. It's more like a locust thing. And hip people will always be on the move, if only because they really can't be seen eating in the same restaurant that every other person eats at, so they'll go and discover a new joint that nobody else has heard of or a new style of wearing their hair, their jeans or their baseball caps. It's a fashion thing.
And sure, everything is eventually cyclic (well, almost everything) but I mean cyclic on a measurable (say 10 years) time-scale, not something geological.
I myself have been using the site less and less over the last 6 months but I still log in at least daily.
I think it will be a generation gap that will end it- people in their early teens will not want to be on the same social networking site as their mothers and fathers!
I still use facebook everyday and I'm a year out of college. I probably engage with less features (like wall commenting, photo uploading, apps, games) than I used to and do more passive browsing.
I think the next big "social network" won't be recognized as a social network. It will gather an audience based on some form of engagement revolving around a winning feature set. Kind of like the way Twitter came along, but with a better feature fit that would eventually creep into Facebook territory.
If you don't know anybody that will sincerely appreciate a hand-written letter from you, make some new friends and get a new mother, father, sister, uncle, aunt, and dog.
regarding "get a new mother, father..." it doesn't cost to have some respect for others, like seriously! I don't know why did I even bothered to respond
I don't care about FB privacy because really, there's nothing there that I worry about getting out. My friends are pretty boring :-)
## My Facebook Rants:
* __Friends__ - A social network should just sense the people you're interested in and give updates accordingly. This would do away with your creepy co-worker demanding that you be his/her "friend." You wouldn't have to delete, and offend, that kid that you never spoke to in the 5th grade. In fact, Facebook kind of requires that its users adopt a kind of 5th grade mentality towards social interaction. "Will you be my girlfriend?"
OkCupid gets this part right. You can add people as friends but updates from people you've recently stalked show up in your feed automatically. If OkCupid wasn't a dating-oriented site, it wouldn't make a bad social networking site.
* __The e-mails__ - I block Facebook emails on gmail. There really should be a way to opt-out of this. It's annoying.
* __Tagging__ - This seemed neat at first and was what probably made Facebook popular in the Facebook but it was a mistake. When I had Facebook, I just blocked anyone from seeing pictures I was tagged in. If I went to a party or something; I would avoid cameras because I didn't want to have to worry about a picture of me drinking and playing dice in an alley to show up on my wall.
* __Vendor Lock-In__ - You can't download your own profile pictures, status updates, etc without the use of some ephemeral 3rd party tool that probably won't exist for very long.
* __The 14-day re-activation period__ - I quit smoking after 6 years; it was easier.
(Just pretend that HN supports markdown :)
Friends: If you reject someone from being your friend they are not informed about it but, if they are smart enough, they can check your profile page and see if they can add you again; you can also block that person and he won't be able to ask to be your friend again; I think this is almost perfect, the only problem I see here is the word "friend". You can accept someone and add that person to a list which will make that person unable to see anything if you want to while still being "friends". Oh, you can also just forget about accepting friendships you don't want to have, the person asking for it will know you still didn't accept him but that's about it.
Emails: You can disable all email notifications (or toggle most of them off leaving the most important on, it's really well done) going to "My Account", "Notifications" tab.
Tagging: You can make your default friends' settings restrict things like seeing photos. If you want some of them to see those photos you can add them to a list where you let them see photos.
Vender Lock-In: I'm not sure about this but didn't Open Social just solve this problem?