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Agreed, not sure why this is getting up votes at all on the topic. If you're running a DB that processes $100M in transactions annually is paying $250k in licenses and $50k/yr in maintenance unreasonable? Of course that pricing for the software isn't for every use case but they aren't trying to sell to the entire market.
It's unreasonable if it doesn't give you $250k + $50k a year in benefits and there are free alternatives available. There are some cases where it makes sense, but I think it's good to have a discussion about what kind of benefits it provides to make it worth the extra money.
Walking: free. Car: not free. Therefore walk everywhere since a free alternative is available? The thing is, 250k of benefits as two and a half engineers. I don't know Oracle software at all, but I imagine there are a number of use cases where their advantage over mysql would be at least that much.
Walking isn't always better, but it can be a viable alternative and there are options in between. As far as I know there is no cheap alternative to Oracle RAC, but I know that there are cases where using a combination of Hadoop and PostgreSQL can replace an Oracle DB.
Seems like you agree with the existing point, "Walking (the free database alternative) isn't always better ... As far as I know there is no cheap alternative to Oracle RAC (the same point can be made to no cheap alternative for having a car which is better in some situations as you just agreed)."
This doesn't mean the open source community should just give up on making a database capable of meeting the needs RAC does today -- at the same time it also doesn't mean business should only use the free alternative when it is a more efficient use of resources for them to purchase RAC.
It might be good to have a discussion like that, in theory, at least. But I rather doubt posting Oracle's price list, context-free is some attempt to have or start a discussion. More likely, it's impressively unimaginative karma-whoring.
at least they're up front about it rather than saying "type your contact information in so we can have a 'sales representative' spam your inbox and voice mail" like a lot of enterprise software companies do. cf. #10 in http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9605.html
This list is incomplete - it only contains software that Oracle considers "off the shelf". Products in their lineup that are targeted at very specific niches are not listed.
Without naming specific products (I'm probably under some kind of NDA though I don't work for Uncle Larry), to give you an idea: products that are sold exclusively through RFPs and the like are less likely to be on a "this is what it costs" list.
Does anyone know what you get you buy the Berkeley DB products? I'm mostly curious if they've actually added new/cool things that aren't available in the open-source releases, or if you're purchasing licensing rights for commercial use, support, etc.
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This doesn't mean the open source community should just give up on making a database capable of meeting the needs RAC does today -- at the same time it also doesn't mean business should only use the free alternative when it is a more efficient use of resources for them to purchase RAC.
Without naming specific products (I'm probably under some kind of NDA though I don't work for Uncle Larry), to give you an idea: products that are sold exclusively through RFPs and the like are less likely to be on a "this is what it costs" list.