> As of now, the AIVD hackers do not seem to have access to Cozy Bear any longer. Sources suggest that the openness of US intelligence sources, who in 2017 praised the help of a Western ally in news stories, may have ruined their operation. The openness caused great anger in The Hague and Zoetermeer. In the television programme College Tour, this month, AIVD director Bertholee stated that he is extra careful when it comes to sharing intelligence with the U.S., now that Donald Trump is President.
I wonder if there are more countries like this, and if so, how much the other Western countries already know that the US doesn't.
In the same TV program it was suggested that the national benefits of working with the US have become much more uncertain: working with the FBI might anger the white house and damage trade relations etc.
I think Israel had an even worse leak happen, they'll be more careful too.
Oh, I thought this was going to be about "Operation Easy Chair"
> A small company from the Netherlands, the Dutch Radar Research Station, turns out to have worked for the CIA for decades. They secretly developed advanced listening devices which the U.S. then used against the Soviets. I came across this story from the Cold War era when an old friend of mine showed me documents that had belonged to his grandfather. Over the next year and a half, intelligence expert Cees Wiebes and I managed to reconstruct the previously unknown role the Dutch played in the Cold War.
..It is not clear why the hacks at the DNC could continue for so long despite the Dutch warnings..
1) The Americans do not listen to other agencies and countries. Except Israel and Arabia who can publicly pay the politicians to get deals.
2) The American agencies like to mess thing up, so they can ask for more funding.
3) The NSA already knew this, because they track and scan every packet. They did not find any problems with the hacks.
4) There were leaks in the DNC after Bernies loss. And DNC system was already infiltrated by AWAN brothers (system administrators of DNC with criminal activities).
Problem with the "hacks/collusion" in general: The Russians did not corrupt Hillary's brain to use her powers against Bernie. Not did they pay Trump to be as he is. I am afraid the US is shooting itself in the foot and blaming Russia for its own political problems (hint: it is corruption).
For me, as it is my home-country, the hardly-ever-heard-of Dutch intelligence agency, seem to want to have a bit of fame for their work in 2015.
Oops. Sorry when I seem disrespectful towards the agencies. I love them. Especially my special NSA guardian ;-)
Looking at comments on Dutch forums, the timing is related to the introduction of a new law (Sleepwet) which gives the agency more possibilities and resources to spy on citizens.
11 comments
[ 3.0 ms ] story [ 34.6 ms ] threadI wonder if there are more countries like this, and if so, how much the other Western countries already know that the US doesn't.
I think Israel had an even worse leak happen, they'll be more careful too.
[1] https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/16/world/middleeast/israel-t...
> A small company from the Netherlands, the Dutch Radar Research Station, turns out to have worked for the CIA for decades. They secretly developed advanced listening devices which the U.S. then used against the Soviets. I came across this story from the Cold War era when an old friend of mine showed me documents that had belonged to his grandfather. Over the next year and a half, intelligence expert Cees Wiebes and I managed to reconstruct the previously unknown role the Dutch played in the Cold War.
https://thecorrespondent.com/3789/operation-easy-chair-or-ho...
1) The Americans do not listen to other agencies and countries. Except Israel and Arabia who can publicly pay the politicians to get deals.
2) The American agencies like to mess thing up, so they can ask for more funding.
3) The NSA already knew this, because they track and scan every packet. They did not find any problems with the hacks.
4) There were leaks in the DNC after Bernies loss. And DNC system was already infiltrated by AWAN brothers (system administrators of DNC with criminal activities).
Problem with the "hacks/collusion" in general: The Russians did not corrupt Hillary's brain to use her powers against Bernie. Not did they pay Trump to be as he is. I am afraid the US is shooting itself in the foot and blaming Russia for its own political problems (hint: it is corruption).
For me, as it is my home-country, the hardly-ever-heard-of Dutch intelligence agency, seem to want to have a bit of fame for their work in 2015.
Oops. Sorry when I seem disrespectful towards the agencies. I love them. Especially my special NSA guardian ;-)