Ask HN: My startup got an an acquisition offer. Please share your advice!
I'm located in the EU and have built a server software project which is currently in private beta. This week, out of the blue, I've been contacted by an US company expressing interest in an acquisition. They talked about some cash up-front (6 digits) and hiring me. This is all new to me.
The company and I communicate via email and telephone conferences. I guess such a deal won't be closed only remotely and they will probably invite me over before reaching an agreement.
* Which steps would be involved in selling my project and getting hired by them?
* What guarantees can/should either party ask for?
* Should they be able to see the full source code in advance?
I would greatly appreciate your advice and experiences!
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[ 3.2 ms ] story [ 76.0 ms ] thread* Get a good lawyer if you don't have one already. If they're a Silicon Valley company, consider getting a lawyer at a top SV firm (Orrick, Gunderson, Wilson-Sonsini, etc.) and asking them to defer fees until the acquisition goes through. That way, you're not out anything if things fall through. (Ask for a referral to an attorney on HN and I'm sure you'll get some good connections. I could refer you to a few.)
* If it's primarily a "hiring bonus" acquisition, it might be cheap and easy to do. In other words, if they mostly want you and your expertise, not (just) your product, they're less likely to screw you.
* Even if you really want the deal to go through, don't stop everything and wait for that to happen. Keep moving the business forward as if nothing will happen.
No to the full source code, I would bind then with a non-compete if they are insistent on seeing all of the source code. If they are concerned about code quality, a module's code base should serve as evidence of the overall code quality.
Acquisitions can be hairy. My first startup was acquired in a semi-hostile takeover; I'm not able to discuss the details, but I can say that a lawyer (and a trusted advisor-- not necessarily the same person) would be a good thing for you right about now.
Beyond that, I'd think about the bullet points of what it is you are after. 6 digits cash up front is nice, but what else are you looking for?
In the absence of better legal advice, I'd suggest that you definitely want a job contract with a guaranteed sum-- say, 1 year's salary. (If things don't work out, they'll fire you, and you'll be without pay, otherwise.)
If it were me, I'd let them see the full source code as part of a "due diligence", after an initial contract is signed; make sure the "due diligence" has a fixed timeframe, and that there is a penalty for them breaking the deal between the signing and the completion.
1. double the price (from, say, 150,000 US to 300,000 US, or from 500 to 1,000). Just double it. Really. You can always go down.
2. Ask for a guaranteed yearly salary of 150,000 to 200,000 US$, with benefits. This is not too much.
Then see how they respond.
As for the hiring: make sure they are responsible for getting the visas. I don't think they should be able to see the full source code in advance, it is quite possible that they are just trying to steal your ideas.
Any more opinions on the yearly salary -- is 150 to 200k an acceptable amount to ask for?
PS: Collectively thank you all for your great comments! They help me a lot clearing things up.
A few thoughts:
* Meeting them in person is 100% imperative. Go to dinner, spend time together, share a bottle of wine. It is important that you like them and vice-versa. If you don't, don't do the deal!
* Inevitably as the deal progresses, something will come up, something with the potential to kill the deal. The personal relationship you built (or didn't) in the point above is what will pull you through (assuming that's what you want.)
* Hire an attorney who gets the culture - someone who operates out of Silicon Valley and knows how these kinds of deals get done. Using an attorney with mismatched cultural expectations will not only put the deal at risk but drive costs way up.
* Beware deal fatigue! Deals that drag on too long have a way of not happening. Get together in person, hammer out key details, turn documents quickly and get it done. It is not done until the wire transfer clears!
* As far as compensation to you, there are three key levers they can pull: Cash now, cash later and equity. How they offer to distribute those tells you a lot about how they see what they're buying. If any of those three buckets is zero, be wary.
Good luck!
Those would be the foremost questions for me.
First step: get a corporate legal eagle on your side, one that has done this multiple times and has a good track record. Find someone near you that has sold a business and ask for a referral, that should help you.
You will be doing technical, legal and financial due diligence (financial only if they buy your company, not if they only buy the product).
You will need to investigate the difference between an asset sale and selling your equity, in a deal like this that can make a huge difference tax wise!
You need to find an entrepreneur close to you that has gone through this to be your 'second opinion' on anything you do.
Try to move from 'telephone conferences' to more email based communications and keep the emails. Do not negotiate for yourself, place another party in between during the negotiations (for instance your lawyer).
Set yourself a target price and be prepared to walk away if it looks like you're not going to make your target.
Set that price now, not when you're negotiating.
If you're not confident in continuing to increase the value, you may want to cash out now... But you're only alive and productive for so many years, and developing a product people are interested in isn't something you can just turn around and do again automatically. I think if it were me, I'd probably hold out and keep rolling the dice if I felt they were loaded in my favor :)
2) Next, you need to decide if you want to stop working on your own thing and start working for someone else and figure out the minimum price you would do that for. If you would accept one dollar less that is not a minimum price.
3) Next, you need to find out if this company will meet that price.
4) If they will meet that price, only then should you get a lawyer.
Getting a lawyer as a first step is terrible advice that will cost you a lot of money and a lot of time on something that 1) you many not be interested in 2) may not actually happen.
We were in a similar situation a month ago and this was basically the advice we compiled from angels, people at YC and pervious YC companies that were bought.
We ended up mostly ignoring the acquisition talks because we weren't that interested in being acquired and (as people told us would likely be the case) they did not go through. It would have been a huge waste of time and money if we got a lawyer like some people on HN suggested, before actually figuring out steps 1-3.
With respect, I think it's great advice. He's far enough along that he's interested in the price and already talking logistics. "Should they be able to see the full source code in advance?" "Which steps would be involved..."
And even before that point, experienced advice is important. A good lawyer can provide that, just as YC and good angels provided it in your case.
that will cost you a lot of money and a lot of time on something that 1) you many not be interested in 2) may not actually happen. ... It would have been a huge waste of time and money if we got a lawyer like some people on HN suggested, before actually figuring out steps 1-3.
But if you find an attorney who will defer legal fees until an acquisition is finalized, you wouldn't have that problem.
(1) is where potential is
(2) salary requirements
(3) negotiation
(4) paperwork
Having something of value should I retain a lawyer? At the hint of a possibility of a sale and regardless of real offers?
I guess a trip to their place in the US would be somewhere around step 3?
Do you think I should get an US lawyer, or one at my current place, or both?
Would you still get to lead the project if they acquire you and the company?
Do you think you can be more successful on your own?
I think those the important questions first. But if you do want to work for them what ever you reasons. Meet them see if you like the people and the culture. The rest is negotiations and I wouldn't give them your source code what ever you do.
Do your self a favor and get your self a lawyer for the contracts and not one they supply you. A lawyer they supply you really just works for them.
ps/ i have no experience just dreams
It's incredibly important to not just get any lawyer but one that is familiar with both what's legal, and enforceable where the sale takes place, as well as the tax implications of the various payment options you will be negating on in whatever jurisdiction you want the money to end up in as well as the one it's leaving.
While I think "get a lawyer" is good advice, I managed fine without (I'm no lawyer but I've studied law and have a good eye for legal jargon and contract wordplay). I think having financial advice is, perhaps, a better first step. Depending on how your "startup" is formed will depend on how you can sell it and how any proceeds would be taxed (or not). You may not even need to pay any taxes due to entrepreneur's relief (if you're in the UK.)
Ultimately, you'll also do well to use escrow - a third party who gets the money before you send anything of serious value to the buyer. This is the sort of stuff your legal advisor will talk to you about, unless you're doing it solo (I had a good idea about how to progress just from avid self-reading on the topic of acquisitions).
Legal representation and a visit would be particularly wise if the deal is contingent on you working for them afterward. After all, they may structure the deal in a way where you're indentured to them or only get certain shares of the cash after certain time periods. This could be complex and would benefit from legal advice on your side. If it were a simple "we'll pay X for Y" deal, that's a different kettle of fish.
You also need to be aware of visa issues if you need to work on-site. If the acquisition is sizable enough and you are established enough, they may be able to get you in an O-1 visa, especially if they'll pay you handsomely. But they need to be paying for that process and you need that in the contract ;-)
"I had a good idea about how to progress just from avid self-reading on the topic of acquisitions"
Maybe you can suggest some reading materials?
So, you need to fail fast. If things are looking like they're going to be a long negotiation process to get to a point of agreement on the major terms, you need to realize that to move forward at that point you are likely ending the startup. If you get acquired, you win, if you don't, you'll have a hell of a hole to dig out of and you'll likely not be able to.
This, like anything else, might be worth the risk. But in an ideal scenario you will walk sooner rather than later if you have faith in your business. It's better to walk away quickly, get back to work for 6-9 months, and hopefully have them coming back to you more engaged and potentially with a higher offer that you can close in on quickly after you've solidifed your business and product more.