Accused of spending 100k, mostly after nov 7th. Compared to h spending 1.2 b. Or the rest of media. Never mind that Asante posted on American bots trying to create consensus.
Where are you getting the 100k number from? That wouldn't even cover a small misinformation campaign and they are also accused of executing multiple hacks. 100k wouldn't even cover the total cost of 1 hacker for 1 year. Would that 100k just be advertisement spending?
And as always with posts on Russian interference, an immediate comment a few minutes later denying and whatabouting any activity. HN is within the sights of the disinformation machine.
This comment breaks the site guidelines by making insinuations about astroturfing or shillage. People are orders of magnitude too quick to leap to that conclusion, merely because other users happen to hold opposing views.
It's easy to feel like no one could possibly hold those views in good faith, so if you see something you dislike enough, it must be shills, bots, or spies—but that's not correct. The HN community is large, divided on divisive issues, and has many users on both sides. If we're to survive for civil discourse, community members need to build up enough tolerance to handle it when others disagree, instead of jumping to accusations of manipulation and bad faith.
All: if you're sincerely concerned about abuse, you're always welcome to send links to hn@ycombinator.com so we can take a look at the data. But please don't shoot from the hip into the threads; you damage the container when you do that.
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[ 2.6 ms ] story [ 22.1 ms ] threadIt's easy to feel like no one could possibly hold those views in good faith, so if you see something you dislike enough, it must be shills, bots, or spies—but that's not correct. The HN community is large, divided on divisive issues, and has many users on both sides. If we're to survive for civil discourse, community members need to build up enough tolerance to handle it when others disagree, instead of jumping to accusations of manipulation and bad faith.
All: if you're sincerely concerned about abuse, you're always welcome to send links to hn@ycombinator.com so we can take a look at the data. But please don't shoot from the hip into the threads; you damage the container when you do that.
https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
p.s. I've written a great deal about this issue, if anyone wants to read more on how we approach it: https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme...
The bad news is, the public is either too stupid or too far in partisan denial to care.