Is this the fifth or sixth time this story has hit the front page? Seriously, I’m losing track. I want to think that the fetishistic reposting and popularity of this story doesn’t say terrible things about some people here, but each time it makes the front page that’s harder to believe.
That's true, but the bulk of the community cares even more about not having the front page filled with duplicates and follow-ups. That's why we moderate it the way we do.
It would have been good if we had caught the original post (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16497551) getting penalized by the flamewar detector and turned that off. We often do that, and even have the software set up to email us notifications to check such things. Had the story had a few more hours on the front page, the point would be moot. Unfortunately we missed that and it's too late now. But the story is certain to develop further, and when significant new information is available, HN can have another big thread. Not before, though.
Bashing Google over this on HN (and elsewhere) seems close to (persistent) astroturfing to me. It would be interesting to actually do the work and investigate where the various mentions on HN (and the original articles) come from.
But then again, this stuff sells in the news, so why suspect ulterior motives ;)
I realize it's a very persuasive-feeling impression. It's increasingly the first thing people bring up to account for disagreement, but that is a huge problem. Overwhelmingly the real reason for disagreement is that people just disagree, and we get nowhere by pretending otherwise.
Describing the popularity of this as "fetishistic reposting" says more about you than it does about this article's popularity. This is an article about hiring in the tech industry, and this is a forum read by people in that same industry. It's about a relevant political direction that has actual impact on the very community that reads this.
Twice daily fp reposts for three days, in the absence of any new information or insights seems fetishistic to me. At the very least it seems profoundly disrespectful to the mods.
To be fair though, you’re posting from an account that was created to post on this story a few days ago. The third comment on this is from an account created 24 minutes ago, for this thread.
Combined the story has more than 500 points from time on the fp, but that’s not enough? I’m trying to imagine the reaction if the “What Happens To Us...” story were similarly treated?
It's a super hot topic that gets discussed a ton, probably more than any other in the last year. There are plenty of other threads about this theme and will be plenty more. Obviously it isn't being suppressed.
What does get penalized on HN are (a) dupes and (b) copycat or follow-up posts trying to hog in on their slice of the click-pie. That's a site quality issue that has nothing to with political sides.
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Sixth time it seems.
It would have been good if we had caught the original post (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16497551) getting penalized by the flamewar detector and turned that off. We often do that, and even have the software set up to email us notifications to check such things. Had the story had a few more hours on the front page, the point would be moot. Unfortunately we missed that and it's too late now. But the story is certain to develop further, and when significant new information is available, HN can have another big thread. Not before, though.
But then again, this stuff sells in the news, so why suspect ulterior motives ;)
I realize it's a very persuasive-feeling impression. It's increasingly the first thing people bring up to account for disagreement, but that is a huge problem. Overwhelmingly the real reason for disagreement is that people just disagree, and we get nowhere by pretending otherwise.
Plus its google and hiring related.
Combined the story has more than 500 points from time on the fp, but that’s not enough? I’m trying to imagine the reaction if the “What Happens To Us...” story were similarly treated?
What does get penalized on HN are (a) dupes and (b) copycat or follow-up posts trying to hog in on their slice of the click-pie. That's a site quality issue that has nothing to with political sides.