Would be good if the UK government can tell us where the line is. I don't recall the Monty Python team being arrested for their ridicule of the Nazis or Prince Harry being arrested for dressing up as a Nazi for fancy dress.
If we're going to arrest people for comedy then maybe perhaps actually show where exactly the line is so comedians know how much Nazi ridicule they can actually do without being arrested.
Or... you know don't arrest people for bad taste jokes.
> Would be good if the UK government can tell us where the line is.
Sometimes the line is indeed hard to draw. That's what courts are for. But most cases are really straight forward, such as this one.
> Or... you know don't arrest people for bad taste jokes.
If you really think this was just a "bad taste joke" you should probably read the article again. More generally, those people always say this was just a "joke" or meant to be "funny". But that's obviously a lame excuse for being an asshole.
> I don't recall the Monty Python team being arrested for their ridicule of the Nazis
Monty Python did make fun of Nazis, which is entirely different and easily distinguished from what happened here.
If your rights are granted by the government, then the "human rights" you have are what the govt says they are.. No more and no less..
Very few countries outside the US have true freedom of speech. Try to say heil Hitler in Germany and see where it gets you. The reality is that these are wonderful places, but you need to follow their laws.
> Meechan "knew what he was doing" he said, adding: "It is self-evident that the material is antisemitic."
I don't know which worries me more, the presence of hate groups, or our inability (or unwillingness) to distinguish between legitimate hate and satire.
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[ 3.3 ms ] story [ 19.4 ms ] threadIf we're going to arrest people for comedy then maybe perhaps actually show where exactly the line is so comedians know how much Nazi ridicule they can actually do without being arrested.
Or... you know don't arrest people for bad taste jokes.
Sometimes the line is indeed hard to draw. That's what courts are for. But most cases are really straight forward, such as this one.
> Or... you know don't arrest people for bad taste jokes.
If you really think this was just a "bad taste joke" you should probably read the article again. More generally, those people always say this was just a "joke" or meant to be "funny". But that's obviously a lame excuse for being an asshole.
> I don't recall the Monty Python team being arrested for their ridicule of the Nazis
Monty Python did make fun of Nazis, which is entirely different and easily distinguished from what happened here.
What right does anyone have to decide if your joke is unfunny enough to charged and convicted of a crime?
This disgusts me.
Very few countries outside the US have true freedom of speech. Try to say heil Hitler in Germany and see where it gets you. The reality is that these are wonderful places, but you need to follow their laws.
I don't know which worries me more, the presence of hate groups, or our inability (or unwillingness) to distinguish between legitimate hate and satire.